Dragon 1,894 Posted August 30, 2016 #121 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) On 8/29/2016 at 6:03 PM, gubchandrolai said: Some bronzes of 2008 and 12 may turn into silver...!! http://www.newsx.com/sports/39621-yogeshwar-dutt-s-bronze-in-2012-london-games-to-be-changed-to-silver-after-doping Expand Nothing confirmed yet by IOC. Edited August 30, 2016 by Dragon Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/8-wrestling-2016-discussion-thread/page/13/#findComment-52264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il_qar 23 Posted August 30, 2016 #122 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Just wondering: why does it take so long to double check the probe B and announce the results? I hope our guys didn't use doping. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/8-wrestling-2016-discussion-thread/page/13/#findComment-52296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,655 Posted August 31, 2016 #123 Share Posted August 31, 2016 If you check the World Junior Championship you can't see any wrestler from Mongolia ! I heard about it but I wasn't sure , apparently UWW banned Mongolian wrestling federation until further announcement ! what those coaches did was stupid and they deserve heavy punishment but banning an entire nation for that is unbelievable . Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/8-wrestling-2016-discussion-thread/page/13/#findComment-52344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasit 865 Posted August 31, 2016 #124 Share Posted August 31, 2016 On 8/31/2016 at 4:31 PM, MHSN said: If you check the World Junior Championship you can't see any wrestler from Mongolia ! I heard about it but I wasn't sure , apparently UWW banned Mongolian wrestling federation until further announcement ! what those coaches did was stupid and they deserve heavy punishment but banning an entire nation for that is unbelievable . Expand Looks like we're back to collective punishment in sports. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/8-wrestling-2016-discussion-thread/page/13/#findComment-52349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Майкл 561 Posted August 31, 2016 #125 Share Posted August 31, 2016 On 8/31/2016 at 4:31 PM, MHSN said: If you check the World Junior Championship you can't see any wrestler from Mongolia ! I heard about it but I wasn't sure , apparently UWW banned Mongolian wrestling federation until further announcement ! what those coaches did was stupid and they deserve heavy punishment but banning an entire nation for that is unbelievable . Expand If Isinbayeva could be banned... Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/8-wrestling-2016-discussion-thread/page/13/#findComment-52350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestmen 2,831 Posted August 31, 2016 #126 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) one bronze in GR 84kg BRONZE: Bachir SID AZARA (ALG) df. Kiril Milenov MILOV (BUL), 1-0 Reveal hidden contents again vs one bulgarian Edited August 31, 2016 by bestmen Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/8-wrestling-2016-discussion-thread/page/13/#findComment-52351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolby 738 Posted September 2, 2016 #127 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Some Indian news agencies are claiming that Toghrul Asgarov has also failed dope test from London. I am yet to find any non-Indian source for this and hence, it could be all rubbish, but it does raise a challenging hypothetical. Asgarov won Gold in London while Kudukhov won Silver. Yogeshwar and Scott won Bronze. Now, there are reports about both Gold and Silver medallists failing dope test, so in that case what would be the medal re-distribution? When one of the finalists fails dope test, it is simple. Bronze medallist who lost to doped wrestler gets upgraded to Silver and the wrestler who lost to upgraded wrestler in Bronze medal match gets Bronze. But, what happens when both finalist are disqualified? 2 silvers and 2 bronze? Or is there some tiebreak which can be applied. Once again, at present this is just a hypothetical as I am yet to find anything credible on Asgarov failing dope test. (He won Silver in Rio as well). Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/8-wrestling-2016-discussion-thread/page/13/#findComment-52529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govind 9 Posted September 2, 2016 #128 Share Posted September 2, 2016 On 8/31/2016 at 5:24 PM, bestmen said: one bronze in GR 84kg BRONZE: Bachir SID AZARA (ALG) df. Kiril Milenov MILOV (BUL), 1-0 Reveal hidden contents again vs one bulgarian Expand Hope thing will look bright for Algeria from now onwards.. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/8-wrestling-2016-discussion-thread/page/13/#findComment-52536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,655 Posted September 2, 2016 #129 Share Posted September 2, 2016 On 9/2/2016 at 1:36 PM, Dolby said: Some Indian news agencies are claiming that Toghrul Asgarov has also failed dope test from London. I am yet to find any non-Indian source for this and hence, it could be all rubbish, but it does raise a challenging hypothetical. Asgarov won Gold in London while Kudukhov won Silver. Yogeshwar and Scott won Bronze. Now, there are reports about both Gold and Silver medallists failing dope test, so in that case what would be the medal re-distribution? When one of the finalists fails dope test, it is simple. Bronze medallist who lost to doped wrestler gets upgraded to Silver and the wrestler who lost to upgraded wrestler in Bronze medal match gets Bronze. But, what happens when both finalist are disqualified? 2 silvers and 2 bronze? Or is there some tiebreak which can be applied. Once again, at present this is just a hypothetical as I am yet to find anything credible on Asgarov failing dope test. (He won Silver in Rio as well). Expand first, people should remember this is not a sure thing if IOC award those medals to the next athlete. but if they want to do that, I think they will either give shared gold or shared silver. or maybe the best idea is leaving Dutt and Scott with bronze medals they already won ! complicated situation, this is not in their rules to do what if both finalists fail the test. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/8-wrestling-2016-discussion-thread/page/13/#findComment-52542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prashanth 179 Posted September 2, 2016 #130 Share Posted September 2, 2016 We had 3 Indian women wrestlers loosing the Bronze medal matches... Tokyo - 2020 Go India Go Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/8-wrestling-2016-discussion-thread/page/13/#findComment-52555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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