Athletics 2018 Discussion Thread

[Yannakis 362]

This year European Athletics has delete Belgrade Marathon from international events because unpaid obligations towards foreign athletes but they have still time by the end of the year to pay off debts to get a back certificate. From Athletics Federation of Serbia says will be new city marathon called " Serbia City marathon"  and it will be maintained in the first week in November.

Edited April 23, 2018 by Janakis

[stefanbg 166]

Finally some justice for female athletes

https://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/eligibility-regulations-for-female-classifica

 

I doubt that Semenya will be as dominant after the rule starts being applied 

[heywoodu 15,335]

  On 4/26/2018 at 7:37 PM, stefanbg said:

Finally some justice for female athletes

https://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/eligibility-regulations-for-female-classifica

 

I doubt that Semenya will be as dominant after the rule starts being applied 

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The most odd thing is the apparent randomness in events. Rules like this should be for all event or for no events, but not for some events. 

 

Still one of the most unfortunate situations in recent sports history, on all sides. The worst are the people who bashed Semenya into the ground (online, the heroes) as if she was/is a cheater, which is rather simply not the case no matter one's opinion about the situation in general. 

Edited April 26, 2018 by heywoodu

[NearPup 3,200]

  On 4/26/2018 at 7:37 PM, stefanbg said:

Finally some justice for female athletes

https://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/eligibility-regulations-for-female-classifica

 

I doubt that Semenya will be as dominant after the rule starts being applied 

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This is a terible, no good rule that might as well refer to Semenya by name and only apply to her. On what planet is a high testosterone level only advantageous from the 400m to the mile? Oh, ya, that’s Semenya’s known range of distances.

 

What a joke. And I say that as someone who doesn’t think Semenya should be allowed to compete at her current level of testosterone.

[stefanbg 166]

  On 4/26/2018 at 8:02 PM, heywoodu said:

The most odd thing is the apparent randomness in events. Rules like this should be for all event or for no events, but not for some events. 

 

Still one of the most unfortunate situations in recent sports history, on all sides. The worst are the people who bashed Semenya into the ground (online, the heroes) as if she was/is a cheater, which is rather simply not the case no matter one's opinion about the situation in general. 

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To cheat means to deceive, which is not the case with her as of my current knowledge. As for the events included the list, they are empirically yielded based on active experimentation supporting cases for hyperandrogenic athletes where the medical condition does not yield them advantage over others.

[dcro 10,210]

Honestly, I expext CAS or someone to revert this decision.

[phelps 7,801]

  On 4/26/2018 at 8:09 PM, Nate River said:

This is a terible, no good rule that might as well refer to Semenya by name and only apply to her. On what planet is a high testosterone level only advantageous from the 400m to the mile? Oh, ya, that’s Semenya’s known range of distances.

 

What a joke. And I say that as someone who doesn’t think Semenya should be allowed to compete at her current level of testosterone.

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it's a terrible rule only because of the distance discrimination...

but it's good in terms that it finally states that those people have an advantage over biologically "normal" women...

by the way, even as bad as it is, it applies to all known cases like Semenya's (Nyonsaba and Wambui among the most famous...also Pamela Jelimo if we think about the recent past...but potentially also to the Kenian girls who dominated last year's women's 800m at the junior Worlds in Nairobi)...

there are many cases ready to jump to most people's attention...and IAAF had to do something before getting into a lot more troubles than just the current women's 800m situation...

hopefully, CAS would only lift the distance discrimination from this rule and not stop it entirely (which would be worse than leaving it as it stands right now)...

[bestmen 2,831]

IAAF doctor predicts intersex category in athletics within five to 10 years

 

[VolleyRuller96 264]

Torun  will host the 2021 Indoor European Championship.

[thepharoah 2,405]

Peter Norman: Sprinter involved in Black Power salute given posthumous Order of Merit

 

Peter Norman, the Australian sprinter involved in the Black Power salute at the 1968 Mexico Olympics, will be awarded an "overdue" posthumous Order of Merit.

He stood alongside Americans Tommie Smith and John Carlos on the 200m podium as the pair protested against racial discrimination.

Smith and Carlos bowed their heads and raised a fist clothed in a black leather glove, while Norman wore a badge supporting human rights.

Norman, who died in 2006 aged 64, was punished for his role at the time and did not compete at another Olympics.

Campaigners have called for a statue to be built in Melbourne in his honour.

An Order of Merit is given by the Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) to an athlete who has achieved "remarkable merit in the sporting world".

 

"This is an overdue award - the respect for Peter and his actions is still enormous to this day," said AOC president John Coates.

"We lost Peter in 2006 but we should never lose sight of his brave stand that day."

In 2012, the Australian Parliament apologised to Norman for the "failure to fully recognise his inspirational role before his untimely death".

 

Who was Peter Norman ? 

 

Norman's father borrowed a pair of running spikes for his son and he developed into a talented sprinter.

At the 1968 Olympics, he broke an Olympic record in the 200m heats and won a silver medal in the final.

Gold medallist Smith and Carlos wanted to wear black gloves on the podium in protest at racism in America, but Carlos left his pair at the Olympic village.

Norman suggested Smith and Carlos wear one glove each and asked a member of the United States rowing team if he could borrow a badge that read 'Olympic Project for Human Rights', a project set up to oppose racism in sport.

Smith and Carlos raised their fists during the American national anthem but the International Olympic Committee took away their credentials and told them to leave Mexico within 48 hours.

Following the protest, Norman continued to race but, despite being ranked fifth in the world, he was not selected for the 1972 Olympics in Munich.

He retired soon after without winning another title and was not invited to the 2000 Olympics in Sydney. The AOC denied it excluded him, and the US athletics team invited him to stay with them during the Games.

Norman remained friends with Smith and Carlos - the two were pallbearers at his funeral and gave eulogies, when they announced the US Track and Field Association had created the 'Peter Norman Day' in recognition of his actions.