Artistic Gymnastics 2021 Discussion Thread

[thiago_simoes 1,425]

  On 4/16/2021 at 3:39 PM, Vic Liu said:

Russian Arthur Dalaoyan Achilles tendon tear during training with expected recovery for 3 months.

https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/stories/news/detail/artur-dalaloyan-achilles-tendon-tear-tokyo-olympics/

 

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He's not going to the Olympics for sure, but Valentina Rodionenko still stated that he's being considered for the team. The Rodionenkos are completely insane, we all know it, but ValRod has now shown how out of touch with reality she is. What an irresponsible, dangerous person. Dalaloyan needs to recover. Period. He should only be back to full training in six months.

[Vic Liu 1,687]

  On 4/16/2021 at 5:28 PM, thiago_simoes said:

He's not going to the Olympics for sure, but Valentina Rodionenko still stated that he's being considered for the team. The Rodionenkos are completely insane, we all know it, but ValRod has now shown how out of touch with reality she is. What an irresponsible, dangerous person. Dalaloyan needs to recover. Period. He should only be back to full training in six months.

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She just want to give hope to Dalaoyan. We all want him to keep faith and not being depressed during this period. Hope he recover soon.

[Dragon 1,899]

This is scary news about one of the best known coaches of the last 50 years

 

 

[Triplecast 157]

  On 4/19/2021 at 5:14 PM, Dragon said:

This is scary news about one of the best known coaches of the last 50 years

 

 

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But not very surprising.

[dcro 10,210]

Curious what Mary Lou Retton would say.

 

Or is she brain-washed by default, since that would be more fitting the narrative?

 

[thiago_simoes 1,425]

  On 4/11/2021 at 7:20 PM, RiSeGwangFan said:

Asian Championship  likely cancelled.

Due COVID-19 protocols, Chengdu won't host the Asian Champs. Also, Universiade is postponed to 2022.

Chengdu was the host since March, when Hangzhou gave up hosting(Covid).

 

This is just an  unofficial rumor on the Chinese Gymternet(Although, in Kazakhstan some Coaches was claiming "Our main competition will be the Asian Championship which will take place in Chengdu, China on May 29Th-June 1St. We hope to in one of the two Olympic Spots available in the All Around. Source: https://olympic.kz/ru/article/18730-aleksandr-kim-nesmotrya-na-pandemiyu-kazakhstanskie-gimnasty-prodolzhat-podgotovku-k-otborochnym-sorevnovaniyam) 

 

 

 

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According to AGU's website, the championships have been canceled. So, this means that  Akim Mussayev and  Abdulla Azimov should take the Olympic quotas in men's artistic gymnastics. In women's artistic gymnastics the qualifiers are  An Chang Ok and  Eom Dohyun; however, since North Korea will likely not go to Tokyo,  Tan Ing Yueh should be the qualifier.

The only one I know from this list is Azimov, who is pretty good on the pommel horse.

[thiago_simoes 1,425]

There are some big changes to the Code of Points for the 2022-2024 cycle.

I'll go through the most important changes in the women's code of points.

1) All vaults were reduced in difficulty value. This means that scores on vault will not be ridiculously higher compared to the other apparatus anymore. Other than that, the level of difficulty remains consistent with the current code of points. For example, a Double Twisting Yurchenko went from 5.4 to 5.0, and a Produnova went from 6.4 to 6.0, so the 1.0 point difference between the vaults remain. Basically, the final vault scores will be lower, but it's still a fair change, even though in practical terms it makes almost no difference.

 

2) Turns are not required on the balance beam anymore. Gymnasts can perform rolls or flairs instead.

3) It looks like turns from the same "family" can be performed only once in each routine. For example, currently gymnasts can perform a triple turn with the leg up, a double turn with the leg up and a single turn with the leg up, and all three of them will add points to the difficulty score. Now, they can only perform one of these elements in each routine. This directly affects .

4) There are new connection values, which won't make much of a difference to the casual viewer but will slightly increase the score of some gymnasts, provided they add more skills in sequence. Not much room for bigger scores, though, but still nice ways to explore the talents of each gymnast.

5) The execution panel has been expanded to 7 judges. This is looking more and more like figure skating at this point. If in practical terms this means that  will stop receiving unrealistic scores, I'm down for it. But I highly doubt so. Also, no more reference judges at the Olympics. I suppose this applies to the men's code of points as well, and in theory we won't see oddities like Jovtchev qualifying to the still rings final in 2012 after judges disagreeing about his score, and the reference panel basically throwing him into the final.

[thiago_simoes 1,425]

Apparently,  Ellie Downie chose not to go to Tokyo. She was a contender for a vault medal and the current World bronze medalist on the apparatus. Her brother passed away last week. He was only 24. Becky Downie will still participate at the British trials in June.

Poor girls. They are so strong, each in her own way. 

[Illya 520]

Can Anastasia Bachynska obtain a World Cup quota ? She is fourth in BB 

[thiago_simoes 1,425]

  On 5/29/2021 at 1:36 PM, Illya said:

Can Anastasia Bachynska obtain a World Cup quota ? She is fourth in BB 

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Nope, unfortunately. Even if she competes at the next stage of the series, she won't be able to catch the first-placed gymnast.