OlympicIRL 4,791 Posted March 3 #391 Share Posted March 3 Nice to see the flags making prominent appearances throughout the championship. Too bad those flags were hanging in the stands rather than being paraded around the track in celebration Makedonas, maestro and hckošice 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge 743 Posted March 3 #392 Share Posted March 3 Presume they put the 1500m on last thinking Laura Muir would run it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makedonas 1,623 Posted March 3 #393 Share Posted March 3 First time since Paris 1997 that finished in the top 10 of the medal table at the World Indoor Championships! hckošice and maestro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh 5,980 Posted March 3 #394 Share Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, Josh said: Hiltz on the podium with a silver For some added context, Hiltz is biologically a male, but has since then “transitioned to a female” (Hiltz is transgender) Hiltz is still a male, regardless. Whatever gender you are born with is the gender that you keep for the rest of your life, and it’s either male or female. Now I’m not transphobic or anything (I couldn’t care less about what they do), I just find it incredibly unfair that she’s taking opportunities away from biological female athletes as a man pretending to be a women. I’m surprised that no women have spoken up about the matter. There’s no real solution for her situation though, if WA created a transgender category in sport the competition level would be ridiculously low, and I don’t see Hiltz agreeing to compete in the men’s events. Just my thoughts on the matter, obviously opinions will differ from person to person. Biathlonfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,520 Posted March 3 #395 Share Posted March 3 13 minutes ago, Josh said: For some added context, Hiltz is biologically a male, but has since then “transitioned to a female” (Hiltz is transgender) I'd advise fact checking such things before making arguements against athletes... "Hiltz was assigned female at birth but doesn’t identify with either binary gender, rather identifying as nonbinary and using they/them pronouns." Link: https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2021/06/17/transgender-athletes-olympics OlympicIRL 1 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,520 Posted March 3 #396 Share Posted March 3 35 minutes ago, Josh said: Hiltz on the podium with a silver Confusion over their gender aside, it's nice to see them getting some top results at the international level. They've been a popular runner on the domestic scene for a while, so I think a lot of people who bee happy to them qualify for the Olympics. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,394 Posted March 3 #397 Share Posted March 3 Beamish is not even there on 1500 Road to Paris list. He has qualified in 5000 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkbw50 381 Posted March 3 #398 Share Posted March 3 20 minutes ago, Josh said: For some added context, Hiltz is biologically a male, but has since then “transitioned to a female” (Hiltz is transgender) Hiltz is still a male, regardless. Whatever gender you are born with is the gender that you keep for the rest of your life, and it’s either male or female. Now I’m not transphobic or anything (I couldn’t care less about what they do), I just find it incredibly unfair that she’s taking opportunities away from biological female athletes as a man pretending to be a women. I’m surprised that no women have spoken up about the matter. There’s no real solution for her situation though, if WA created a transgender category in sport the competition level would be ridiculously low, and I don’t see Hiltz agreeing to compete in the men’s events. Just my thoughts on the matter, obviously opinions will differ from person to person. This isn't correct, Hiltz was born female, identifies as "non-binary" but still competes in the women's division. There was a footballer called Quinn who was part of the team that won gold at the Olympics who was the same OlympicIRL 1 As now we come across the world To share these Games of old Let all the flags of every land In brotherhood unfold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh 5,980 Posted March 3 #399 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said: I'd advise fact checking such things before making arguements against athletes... "Hiltz was assigned female at birth but doesn’t identify with either binary gender, rather identifying as nonbinary and using they/them pronouns." Link: https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2021/06/17/transgender-athletes-olympics You’re right, I must’ve had Hiltz confused with another athlete. It’s now fine from my perspective that she competes in women’s events. But you can’t identify as non-binary, you’re either a male or a female and that’s that. Hiltz is a female. All the various pronouns (he/her/she/they/them/xer?) are bullshit. Edited March 3 by Josh Biathlonfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biathlonfan 391 Posted March 3 #400 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said: I'd advise fact checking such things before making arguements against athletes... "Hiltz was assigned female at birth but doesn’t identify with either binary gender, rather identifying as nonbinary and using they/them pronouns." Link: https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2021/06/17/transgender-athletes-olympics There is no such thing as ''assigned at birth'' unless your a hermaphadite,you are either a girl or a boy.I can declare that i'm a banana,that doesn't mean that i'm actually a banana and people have to just act like there's nothing weird with that.Also i don't know why you are bringing transgender into this.there's nonbinary[which i don't consider anything but a western invention].and there's being transgender which is an actual proven thing,they are not the same thing,no matter how much non binary ''activists'' are trying to claim that they are. Edited March 3 by Biathlonfan Josh and dullard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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