RussB 44 Posted March 8 Author #41 Share Posted March 8 As we commented after BUCS, Angharad’s progression looks genuine with a time 0.04 outside the British record. my other takeaway from day 1 was the performance of Duncan Scott. He goes a 1m 46 flat in the 200 free and then a 1m 57.7 in the 200 IM off no taper in the same session. Bodes very well for trials and Paris. Also shall give a shout to Keanna Mcinnes who smashed Laura Stephens in the 200 fly going a 2 08 which was surprisingly quick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpjmcevoy 207 Posted March 9 #42 Share Posted March 9 On 2/26/2024 at 11:11 PM, Rafa Maciel said: Angharad Evans achieved the OQT this weekend with a new PB 1:06.65 at the BUCS Long Course Championship BTW, we are getting dangerously close to the 30 athlete cap that British Swimming have in their selection document. Really hoping that a few more can be added to the list to give selectors a real dilemma. If bolters like Evans come out of the wood work, and various relays, in particular, start looking viable, that 30 'hard' limit will be gone like snow of a rope. That 30 limit is pure penny pinching, but no way they pass up actual medal chnces to keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Maciel 1,401 Posted March 9 #43 Share Posted March 9 6 minutes ago, mpjmcevoy said: If bolters like Evans come out of the wood work, and various relays, in particular, start looking viable, that 30 'hard' limit will be gone like snow of a rope. That 30 limit is pure penny pinching, but no way they pass up actual medal chnces to keep it. But the actual cost of sending the team to Paris doesn't fall on British Swimming - as far as I am aware, the bill is picked up by the BOA so cost shouldn't be a factor. It looks like British Swimming have always had a team limit in their selection policy - I thought it had been reduced to 30 for this cycle but it's been set at 30 for Rio and Tokyo so I can't even blame it on Buckner. Hopefully as you say, if more than 30 athletes are able to get the individual qualifying standards GB Swimming will have the sense to flex their criteria - they did show they were willing/able to be flexible at last year's trials when they realised they had completely balls'd up their selection for Fukuoka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangehair43 177 Posted March 9 #44 Share Posted March 9 Will they want the BBC going on and on about swimmers missing out to artificial limits. The BBC love selection drama stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangehair43 177 Posted March 9 #45 Share Posted March 9 11 minutes ago, Rafa Maciel said: But the actual cost of sending the team to Paris doesn't fall on British Swimming - as far as I am aware, the bill is picked up by the BOA so cost shouldn't be a factor. It looks like British Swimming have always had a team limit in their selection policy - I thought it had been reduced to 30 for this cycle but it's been set at 30 for Rio and Tokyo so I can't even blame it on Buckner. Hopefully as you say, if more than 30 athletes are able to get the individual qualifying standards GB Swimming will have the sense to flex their criteria - they did show they were willing/able to be flexible at last year's trials when they realised they had completely balls'd up their selection for Fukuoka. Wiki says the limit was actually 35 for Tokyo. The squad was 30 in Tokyo and they skipped one relay when they still seem to be aiming to accept all the relays this time around. , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangehair43 177 Posted March 9 #46 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Rafa Maciel said: I am sorry but you really do talk some nonsense - I'm not sure if you genuinely believe half the stuff that you write or whether you do it trying to get a rise out of someone. The IOC loves control and the governing bodies love control. Athletics is clearly heading towards an entirely world ranking based system and swimming will follow. Edited March 9 by Orangehair43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussB 44 Posted March 9 Author #47 Share Posted March 9 It’ll be interesting what Evans can do in the 200 where we don’t have anyone close to reaching the qualifying standard at the moment. She dropped 7 secs of her PB at the end of 2023 so who knows how low into the 2 20s she can go. the consideration time is a 2 23 flat and her PB from Dec is 2 26.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Maciel 1,401 Posted March 9 #48 Share Posted March 9 39 minutes ago, Orangehair43 said: Wiki says the limit was actually 35 for Tokyo. The squad was 30 in Tokyo and they skipped one relay when they still seem to be aiming to accept all the relays this time around. , For once Wikipedia is right - the original selection document published for 2020 had a team size limit of 30. A revised version was published in December 2020 and the limit had been increased to 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGB 75 Posted March 9 #49 Share Posted March 9 I hope, they change the team limit. They changed the selection criteria for last years worlds during the national champs so you never know. In terms of the team, this is who I would predict to make it based on current form. Men's 50m Freestyle - (21.88 QT) - Ben Proud, Lewis Burras Men's 100m Freestyle - (48.06 QT) - Matt Richards, Lewis Burras Men's 200m Freestyle - (1:45.96 QT) - Tom Dean, Matt Richards Men's 400m Freestyle - (3:45.43 QT) - None Men's 800m Freestyle - (7:47.81 QT) - Dan Jervis Men's 1500m Freestyle - (14:54.29 QT) - Dan Jervis Men's 100m Backstroke - (53.68 QT) - Oliver Morgan, Luke Greenbank Men's 200m Backstroke - (1:57.28 QT) - Luke Greenbank, Oliver Morgan Men's 100m Breaststroke - (59.45 QT) - Adam Peaty, James Wilby Men's 200m Breaststroke - (2:08.29 QT) - James Wilby Men's 100m Butterfly - (51.56 QT) - James Guy, Jacob Peters Men's 200m Butterfly - (1:54.97 QT) - James Guy?? Men's 200m IM - (1:57.49 QT) - Duncan Scott, Tom Dean Men's 400m IM - (4:11.90 QT) - Max Litchfield Men's 4x100m Freestyle - (3:13.04 QT) - Tom Dean, Duncan Scott, Matt Richards, Lewis Burras, Jacob Whittle Men's 4x200m Freestyle - (7:07.40 QT) - Tom Dean, Duncan Scott, Matt Richards, James Guy, Joe Litchfield Men's 4x100m Medley - (3:33.15 QT) - Oliver Morgan, Adam Peaty, James Guy, Matt Richards. Women's 50m Freestyle - (24.65 QT) - Anna Hopkin Women's 100m Freestyle - (53.55 QT) - Anna Hopkin, Freya Anderson Women's 200m Freestyle - (1:56.85 QT) - Freya Anderson, Freya Colbert Women's 400m Freestyle - (4.04.98 QT) - None Women's 800m Freestyle - (8:25.84 QT) - Amelie Blocksidge?? Women's 1500m Freestyle - (16:01.95 QT) - Amelie Blocksidge, Fleur Lewis?? Women's 100m Backstroke - (59.89 QT) - Medi Harris, Lauren Cox Women's 200m Backstroke - (2:08.91 QT) - Katie Shanahan, Honey Osrin Women's 100m Breaststroke - (1:06.31 QT) - Angharad Evans, Kara Hanlon?? Women's 200m Breaststroke - (2:23.04 QT) - Angharad Evans?? Women's 100m Butterfly - (57.17 QT) - None (This time is quicker than the national record) Women's 200m Butterfly - (2:07.96 QT) - Laura Stephens, Emily Large Women's 200m IM - (2:10.62 QT) - Abbie Wood, Katie Shanahan Women's 400m IM - (4:37.84 QT) - Freya Colbert, Katie Shanahan Women's 4x100m Freestyle (3:36.40 QT) - Anna Hopkin, Freya Anderson, Lucy Hope, Abbie Wood, Evelyn Davies??? Women's 4x200m Freestyle (7:51.89 QT) - Freya Anderson, Freya Colbert, Abbie Wood, Lucy Hope, Medi Harris Women's 4x100m Medley (3:56.89 QT) - Medi Harris, Angharad Evans, Harriet Jones, Anna Hopkin Mixed 4x100m Medley (3:44.10 QT) - Medi Harris, Adam Peaty, James Guy, Anna Hopkin Total - 14 Male + 17 Female (31) Obviously some of these may be a stretch, but similarly there could be others who I have missed out, but I would expect the team to be around this number, maybe slightly higher depending on relay squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangehair43 177 Posted March 9 #50 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, TeamGB said: I hope, they change the team limit. They changed the selection criteria for last years worlds during the national champs so you never know. In terms of the team, this is who I would predict to make it based on current form. Men's 50m Freestyle - (21.88 QT) - Ben Proud, Lewis Burras Men's 100m Freestyle - (48.06 QT) - Matt Richards, Lewis Burras Men's 200m Freestyle - (1:45.96 QT) - Tom Dean, Matt Richards Men's 400m Freestyle - (3:45.43 QT) - None Men's 800m Freestyle - (7:47.81 QT) - Dan Jervis Men's 1500m Freestyle - (14:54.29 QT) - Dan Jervis Men's 100m Backstroke - (53.68 QT) - Oliver Morgan, Luke Greenbank Men's 200m Backstroke - (1:57.28 QT) - Luke Greenbank, Oliver Morgan Men's 100m Breaststroke - (59.45 QT) - Adam Peaty, James Wilby Men's 200m Breaststroke - (2:08.29 QT) - James Wilby Men's 100m Butterfly - (51.56 QT) - James Guy, Jacob Peters Men's 200m Butterfly - (1:54.97 QT) - James Guy?? Men's 200m IM - (1:57.49 QT) - Duncan Scott, Tom Dean Men's 400m IM - (4:11.90 QT) - Max Litchfield Men's 4x100m Freestyle - (3:13.04 QT) - Tom Dean, Duncan Scott, Matt Richards, Lewis Burras, Jacob Whittle Men's 4x200m Freestyle - (7:07.40 QT) - Tom Dean, Duncan Scott, Matt Richards, James Guy, Joe Litchfield Men's 4x100m Medley - (3:33.15 QT) - Oliver Morgan, Adam Peaty, James Guy, Matt Richards. Women's 50m Freestyle - (24.65 QT) - Anna Hopkin Women's 100m Freestyle - (53.55 QT) - Anna Hopkin, Freya Anderson Women's 200m Freestyle - (1:56.85 QT) - Freya Anderson, Freya Colbert Women's 400m Freestyle - (4.04.98 QT) - None Women's 800m Freestyle - (8:25.84 QT) - Amelie Blocksidge?? Women's 1500m Freestyle - (16:01.95 QT) - Amelie Blocksidge, Fleur Lewis?? Women's 100m Backstroke - (59.89 QT) - Medi Harris, Lauren Cox Women's 200m Backstroke - (2:08.91 QT) - Katie Shanahan, Honey Osrin Women's 100m Breaststroke - (1:06.31 QT) - Angharad Evans, Kara Hanlon?? Women's 200m Breaststroke - (2:23.04 QT) - Angharad Evans?? Women's 100m Butterfly - (57.17 QT) - None (This time is quicker than the national record) Women's 200m Butterfly - (2:07.96 QT) - Laura Stephens, Emily Large Women's 200m IM - (2:10.62 QT) - Abbie Wood, Katie Shanahan Women's 400m IM - (4:37.84 QT) - Freya Colbert, Katie Shanahan Women's 4x100m Freestyle (3:36.40 QT) - Anna Hopkin, Freya Anderson, Lucy Hope, Abbie Wood, Evelyn Davies??? Women's 4x200m Freestyle (7:51.89 QT) - Freya Anderson, Freya Colbert, Abbie Wood, Lucy Hope, Medi Harris Women's 4x100m Medley (3:56.89 QT) - Medi Harris, Angharad Evans, Harriet Jones, Anna Hopkin Mixed 4x100m Medley (3:44.10 QT) - Medi Harris, Adam Peaty, James Guy, Anna Hopkin Total - 14 Male + 17 Female (31) Obviously some of these may be a stretch, but similarly there could be others who I have missed out, but I would expect the team to be around this number, maybe slightly higher depending on relay squads. Can they fit enough for all the relays within 30? I can see one of the women medley relay getting the boot if they need to cut one or two people. Edited March 9 by Orangehair43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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