[OFF TOPIC] Coronavirus Pandemic

[nitinsanker 206]

9 hours ago, MHSN said:

13th day of holiday 

I think the end of the holiday will definitely create a spike in the next 5-10 days.... 

9 hours ago, MHSN said:

and while numbers don't show any kind of improvement, Rouhani was claiming the situation is "improving" in all 31 provinces.

I think you cannot stop the virus in its tracks.... You only manage the spike into a lower but longer curve 

[Agger 1,701]

The good old US extreme right making security necessary for those fighting the virus:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/us/politics/coronavirus-fauci-security.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

[Siddhartha Talukdar 244]

4 hours ago, nitinsanker said:

India more than 600 cases yesterday as worldometer.......... This is a huge jump from the 100-200 case range we were in..... I hope this is not the start of a huge spike..... India's spike can put the US spike to shame with the sheer size of population we have..... ?

The spike was more due to the religious meet in Delhi and the participants then going back to four corners of the country.  More stupidity is that they aren't co-operating with the authorities.

They have became the new hotspot cluster.

[Wanderer 1,738]

Luxembourg is about to have more confirmed cases than Japan 

[MHSN 3,782]

4 hours ago, nitinsanker said:

I think the end of the holiday will definitely create a spike in the next 5-10 days....

 

well that's what everybody is afraid of , even though I think some (or maybe most) of those travelers were already forced to go back to their towns.

 

and most things will remain closed, but still no restriction if you want to go out. 

[Griff88 2,009]

Only 2 out of 34 provinces are without cases now...

 

The central government is in a disarray, busy doing tug-of-war with local governments in imposing lockdowns.

 

Meanwhile the Finance Minister is feeling itchy because she can't tax Netflix and Zoom which became more widely used by people in "whatever-from-home".

[nitinsanker 206]

I think places like Spain / Italy / Switzerland with 1 in 400 testing positive for corona, we probably have ( including asymptomatic cases many who may be cured close) 1 in 100 already infected........ By now most people have been exposed I think over the next 30 days or so covid would have run it's course in Western Europe in these countries ....... To touch 3-7 % infection rate...... For US, turkey, Iran, Canada on the ideal temp range for infection I think things are going to get worse as the number of people infected as a proportion of pop is still very low ....... For countries like India , Pakistan, Bangladesh, indonesia, a lot depends on whether  covid is able to remain as highly infectious in the much higher temp range....... 

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South Korea with 9976 cases have 169 deaths. South Korea is touching the 10,000 number by tomorrow.

 

Indonesia with 1790 cases have 170 deaths. Indonesia death rate has surpassed South Korea.

 

Names of countries in Asia with high death rate.

 

1. China - 3318

 

2. Iran - 3160

 

3. Indonesia - 170

 

4. South Korea - 169

 

5. Philipines - 107

Edited April 2, 2020 by up and down

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Latest updates for Coronavirus.

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/commentary/indonesia-covid-19-coronavirus-cases-deaths-jakarta-measures-12585684

 

Commentary: Without major intervention, Indonesia could have 71,000 COVID-19 cases by end-April

 

Excerps from the article above.

 

HOW BAD IT COULD GET FOR INDONESIA

 

Theoretically, interventions such as limiting social gatherings, mass testing and the isolation of positive cases should slow the number of new cases down.

Without these strict restrictions, the growth in the number of COVID-19 patients will be exponential. This means that for every similar period, the number of patients multiplies by the number of patients before.

For example, if the number of patients increases by two every day, each patient transmits to two people per day. So, the number of patients on the first day to the 7th day would be: One, two, four, eight, 16, 32 and 64.

 

In this first week, medical staff would still be able to handle the number of patients they need to treat. But if the doubling continues, at the end of the second week, the number of patients will be 8,192. By the end of the third week, it will pass the 1 million mark.

 

By the end of the fourth week, the number will break past 10 million and be at 13,421,728.

 

This rate of increase is dynamic, depending on the period analysed and interventions conducted to slow the spread of the virus.

To prevent the health system from being overwhelmed with patients, the doubling must be stopped as soon as possible, at the beginning of the outbreak, when the number of patients is still small.

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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/indonesia-covid19-doctors-nurses-at-risk-12573980

 

'We are worried,' say Indonesian healthcare workers as COVID-19 takes toll on medical system

 

Excerpts from the article above.

 

On Saturday (Mar 21), Dr Djoko Judodjoko breathed his last in a Jakarta hospital.

 

The 70-year-old, who had underlying health conditions, was treated for COVID-19 earlier.

 

He was one of the seven doctors nationwide who contracted coronavirus and eventually passed away, according to the Indonesian Medical Association. More than 40 healthcare workers are currently being treated for COVID-19. 

 

Dr Judodjoko's brother-in-law, Dr Pandu Riono, tweeted: “Farewell brother Koko. Forgive me for not being able to push the government under @jokowi to seriously overcome the COVID-19 pandemic. You’re infected when in active service. Many health workers have been infected and left. The (excuse) of lack of PPE (personal protective equipment) is not forgivable.”

 

“It’s not enough to talk, we need to act,” the public health expert from the University of Indonesia wrote.

 

The number of COVID-19 cases involving healthcare workers has led their colleagues across the country to be more vigilant, while appealing for urgent measures to be taken to safeguard them.

 

“These are not just numbers, not just statistics. These are human beings,” Dr Riono told CNA. 

 

SOME HEALTHCARE WORKERS WHO DIED WERE NOT TREATING COVID-19 PATIENTS

 

He said Dr Judodjoko was, in fact, not treating COVID-19 cases.

 

He opined that every health facility personnel, including doctors who operate their own private practice, should have been educated that they were likely serving people who had already been infected.

 

“They should have been given personal protective equipment.  Many doctors were not aware, they thought they were handling normal patients who had complaints but what happened was they (the patients) were infecting the doctors.

 

"That’s why in the first few months, many health workers will be infected,” he said.

 

Separately, a nurse who works at the same hospital as one of the doctors who died also said the 34-year-old doctor was not tending to COVID-19 patients. 

 

The hospital is wondering how he could have gotten infected, said the nurse who declined to be named.

Dr Riono noted: “What now is happening is that many people in Indonesia have already been infected but do not yet know because there are limited testing kits."

 

The public health expert added: "Protection to the health workers is number one. Don’t bother thinking about incentives, they don’t work for money … they work because it is their calling."