heywoodu 13,825 Posted August 9, 2023 #181 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, Jinzha said: Not a great keirin by Lavreysen. It's like he reacted to Richardson and Carlin and suddenly found himself in front and decided to keep going. 3 laps in front is just too much even for him. Plus especially Carlin simply jumped the start, that race should have been stopped. I'm glad Quintero won, that's awesome and I hope they won't rerun it, but this was yet another fail by the seemingly somewhat incompetent jury in Glasgow Josh 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agger 1,611 Posted August 9, 2023 #182 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Thank you Poland for securing the Danish silver! Adriano 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano 517 Posted August 9, 2023 #183 Share Posted August 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Agger said: Thank you Poland for securing the Danish silver! No problem:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,986 Posted August 9, 2023 #184 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said: It seems a bit weird that they have scheduled all 4 of the women's omnium in the same evening session whereas the men's event had the scratch race in the afternoon session That’s the normal scheduling on the circuit though - it was only because of all the para races they had to change the men’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,986 Posted August 9, 2023 #185 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, heywoodu said: Plus especially Carlin simply jumped the start, that race should have been stopped. I'm glad Quintero won, that's awesome and I hope they won't rerun it, but this was yet another fail by the seemingly somewhat incompetent jury in Glasgow Ie the same jury who do everything, not specifically Scottish. But I agree they have been slack, compared to the London 2012 especially. Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Maciel 1,512 Posted August 9, 2023 #186 Share Posted August 9, 2023 52 minutes ago, Grassmarket said: That’s the normal scheduling on the circuit though - it was only because of all the para races they had to change the men’s Not sure about that - may be the case in the Nation's Cup but looking back over the schedules for Euros and Worlds, definitely looks like previous they had the scratch and tempo race in afternoon session and then elimination and points in the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,660 Posted August 9, 2023 #187 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Watching the keirin final, I was wondering… Is there any consensus as to whether track sprinters are better in a straight sprint than road sprinters (or they are better/equal)? “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,825 Posted August 10, 2023 #188 Share Posted August 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Grassmarket said: Ie the same jury who do everything, not specifically Scottish. But I agree they have been slack, compared to the London 2012 especially. Oh let's not bring London 2012 back in the game, with the absolutely shameful showing of the British team sprint men Josh 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,825 Posted August 10, 2023 #189 Share Posted August 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: Watching the keirin final, I was wondering… Is there any consensus as to whether track sprinters are better in a straight sprint than road sprinters (or they are better/equal)? Generally road sprinters are significantly better at straight sprints (assuming you mean on the road), but that might also be because road racing is a way, way, way bigger sport and so the field is a lot more competitive in general. Other than that, it's just entirely different: a massive explosion of 10-20 seconds like in the individual sprint or keirin vs a bunch sprint on the road after several hours of riding. Road sprinters are still endurance athletes really. That being said, quite a lot of the road riders who have success on the track are sprinters. The likes of Mark Cavendish or Elia Viviani have been good on the track, but definitely not in sprint events (think points race, scratch, those kind of things), presumably because of the aforementioned thing of road sprinters still being endurance athletes more than raw sprinters. Either that or time trial specialists (the likes of Filippo Ganna). The only real top track sprinter who was a somewhat decent road sprinter I can think of is Theo Bos, but he definitely didn't become much more than a B-tier road sprinter. Josh and Olympian1010 2 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,825 Posted August 10, 2023 #190 Share Posted August 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said: Not sure about that - may be the case in the Nation's Cup but looking back over the schedules for Euros and Worlds, definitely looks like previous they had the scratch and tempo race in afternoon session and then elimination and points in the evening. They have that in the Nation's Cup as well: first two events in the first session of the day, the other two events in the later session of the day. Josh 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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