Vektor 3,195 Posted July 20, 2023 #31 Share Posted July 20, 2023 On 7/16/2023 at 8:23 AM, Vektor said: These are the expected QFs now: v v v v The US and Spain are the heavy favorites for the quotas, with a slight chance that the Netherlands upsets the US in the semi or Hungary upsets Spain in the quarters, but I wouldn't bet money on either of those to happen, women's water polo is very predictable. Women's water polo is predictable as always, these will be the QFs, as it was expected. v SF is almost set in stone, while the other two QFs, v and v will be less predictable. I am guessing an v semi, but Greece and Hungary have a chance to upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,241 Posted July 20, 2023 #32 Share Posted July 20, 2023 South Africa with a top 12 finish, that pretty much seals their Olympic participation next year. Benolympique and Josh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benolympique 1,755 Posted July 20, 2023 #33 Share Posted July 20, 2023 so one of these european nations will miss the games: .. what a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,241 Posted July 20, 2023 #34 Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Benolympique said: so one of these european nations will miss the games: .. what a mess could defeat in the semis which then puts in the hot seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benolympique 1,755 Posted July 20, 2023 #35 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said: could defeat in the semis which then puts in the hot seat. frankly the USA is above the lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,241 Posted July 20, 2023 #36 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Benolympique said: frankly the USA is above the lot They are the best, but aren't unbeatable. No doubt the United States will be the favourites, but a good day for the Netherlands could see the upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,195 Posted July 20, 2023 #37 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said: could defeat in the semis which then puts in the hot seat. winning against the European teams and qualifying here is more likely. But the most likely scenario obviously is + here. And honestly, if is truly that weak, they shouldn't qualify for Paris just because Russia is banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCB 462 Posted July 20, 2023 #38 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Vektor said: winning against the European teams and qualifying here is more likely. But the most likely scenario obviously is + here. And honestly, if is truly that weak, they shouldn't qualify for Paris just because Russia is banned. in the final means two out of will miss the Games. That's even a bigger mess ... I don't see upset . Well, when doesn't qualify, it's their own 'fault'. Losing against Spain was enough for a realistic Olympic chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsensioWillemsen 123 Posted July 21, 2023 #39 Share Posted July 21, 2023 15 hours ago, Vektor said: winning against the European teams and qualifying here is more likely. But the most likely scenario obviously is + here. And honestly, if is truly that weak, they shouldn't qualify for Paris just because Russia is banned. The problem to me is moreso that it is really dependent on the draw next time around. Draw early and you are in a messy situation. Still able to get out of it though, 3rd place will be enough. What also is a problem to me is the proximity of the Europeans and the next worlds, but the difference to the smaller nations makes that it should be fine. If edge out a surprise and fails to make the finals, then five teams is on the cards. But seems very unlikely. The latter is more important to me though, if qualifies now I'm pretty positive will take on of the spots for grabs later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,195 Posted July 21, 2023 #40 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, AsensioWillemsen said: The problem to me is moreso that it is really dependent on the draw next time around. Draw early and you are in a messy situation. Still able to get out of it though, 3rd place will be enough. What also is a problem to me is the proximity of the Europeans and the next worlds, but the difference to the smaller nations makes that it should be fine. If edge out a surprise and fails to make the finals, then five teams is on the cards. But seems very unlikely. The latter is more important to me though, if qualifies now I'm pretty positive will take on of the spots for grabs later on. Bad draw can still be an issue if a team gets unlucky. I mean, imagine this... gets defeated by here in the QF gets defeated by at the Euros in the SF (the winner of the other SF wins the quota there) gets defeated by yet again at the next Worlds in the QF If we somehow get Spain early on every time, we might not qualify to Paris even if we are supposedly the 2nd or 3rd best team in Europe, we are just unable to beat the best European team. This is why it's an AWFUL idea to have the World Champs as a final qualification tournament instead of an actual qualification tournament where already qualified teams can't compete. Roamingrover86 and Makedonas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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