LDOG 2,418 Posted November 15, 2021 #581 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I don't think Congo should be disqualified, it is the 4th referee ineptitude that allowed this. They should be keeping track of the substitutions and preventing teams from making illegal ones. It's not different than the main ref allowing a handball goal, it's the referees job to enforce the rules. At best the match should be replayed. Makedonas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunadan 1,103 Posted November 15, 2021 #582 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Hmmm, both Fonseca at Roma and Van Bommel at Wolfsburg committed mistakes in doing subs recently and they were sanctioned with a loss, so unless there are specific rules for international matches Benin will be awarded the win. Makedonas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 4,499 Posted November 15, 2021 #583 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, LDOG said: I don't think Congo should be disqualified, it is the 4th referee ineptitude that allowed this. They should be keeping track of the substitutions and preventing teams from making illegal ones. It's not different than the main ref allowing a handball goal, it's the referees job to enforce the rules. At best the match should be replayed. It's not the referee's responsibility to correct the mistake. If a coach messes up, that is his responsibility. Reminds me how Otto Rehhagel mismanaged the 3 non-EU players rule that was in operation in the 90s. Hany Ramzy had to fake an injury to "validate" the substitution. FCK still lost the game 2-3 so Bochum didn't file a protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makedonas 2,155 Posted November 15, 2021 #584 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Monzanator said: Knowing our luck, we'll draw Portugal in the playoffs We play Hungary tonight, a complete dead rubber, Lewandowski & Glik won't play due to a coach's decision. Poland will be seeded though, right? So I guess they'll avoid Portugal for the first round of the playoffs but could possibly play them in the second round. Poland is actually my favourite team in the playoffs (assuming the Netherlands qualify directly) Monzanator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makedonas 2,155 Posted November 15, 2021 #585 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Dunadan said: so unless there are specific rules for international matches Benin will be awarded the win. Not exactly the same rule but Greece and Turkey played a 0-0 friendly in 2015. It was later revealed that Greece fielded an ineligible player as a substitute and Turkey was awarded a 3-0 win. Obviously this rule is different but it still is about substitutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 4,499 Posted November 15, 2021 #586 Share Posted November 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, Makedonas said: Poland will be seeded though, right? So I guess they'll avoid Portugal for the first round of the playoffs but could possibly play them in the second round. Poland is actually my favourite team in the playoffs (assuming the Netherlands qualify directly) Poland can be seeded even with a draw vs Hungary since Wales & Scotland would have to beat Belgium & Denmark to begin with so yeah, we will probably be seeded and avoid Portugal in R1. But there's always R2 Makedonas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,418 Posted November 15, 2021 #587 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Dunadan said: Hmmm, both Fonseca at Roma and Van Bommel at Wolfsburg committed mistakes in doing subs recently and they were sanctioned with a loss, so unless there are specific rules for international matches Benin will be awarded the win. I'm talking about what should be -in my opinion- not what will actually be sanctioned. 4th official directly authorizes substitutions so they should be held responsible for such mistakes. Makedonas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,793 Posted November 15, 2021 #588 Share Posted November 15, 2021 This is why we should go back to only 3 substitutes in a match Makedonas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,793 Posted November 15, 2021 #589 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Little poor BG team is going to get hammered The spot is going to whoever out-goals the other between Italy and Swiss and i fear for our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 4,556 Posted November 15, 2021 #590 Share Posted November 15, 2021 So, it's time for THE match. I'm really nervous, I still remember the 2018 tragedy. Let's go Bulgaria and Forza Azzurri! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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