Men's Football UEFA European Championship 2024

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1 hour ago, Roamingrover86 said:

Yeh, i haven’t read much into the history of the song but why would you have loyalty to Spain in this day & age! 
It was funny as in WC2010 it was Holland vs Spain final & your players were singing to be loyal to the spanish king

As a Portuguese, with all the eight centuries old history and rivalry against Spain, coming to this lovely country that is The Netherlands and then find out that they have this in the anthem… my biggest cultural shock!!! 

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1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

Nicely defended, Scotland.

 

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 just keeping hope alive long enough for the inevitable disappointment.  

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1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

It has everything to do with the 80 year war in the 16th-17th century, when the (more or less modern-day) Netherlands got rid of the Spanish Catholic oppression, under the leadership of William the Silent (William of Orange, as he's known here). The Wilhelmus was sort of a political song, in which William was put forward as a true Christian and someone who never betrayed the Spanish (which was important to stress, since that made it clear it was all on the Spanish).

 

Very long story, it's an 80 year war for a reason, but mostly the Wilhelmus was a political thing and saying "I always honoured the Spanish king" was mostly a diplomatic thing  

One of my favourite things in  is the St Jan's Kerk in Gouda.  On one side of the Church, you have a set of stained glass windows from about 1560 showing how the brave and noble King Phillip II of Spain protected the honest and pious Catholic burgers of Gouda against those beggarly pirate upstarts, the Protestant rebels.  On the other side, a set of stained glass windows from about 1580 showing the heroically outnumbered defenders of the Vaderland protecting the honest and pious Calvinist burgers of Gouda against that cruel and blood-stained Catholic tyrant, King Philip II of Spain. 

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3 hours ago, heywoodu said:

It has everything to do with the 80 year war in the 16th-17th century, when the (more or less modern-day) Netherlands got rid of the Spanish Catholic oppression, under the leadership of William the Silent (William of Orange, as he's known here). The Wilhelmus was sort of a political song, in which William was put forward as a true Christian and someone who never betrayed the Spanish (which was important to stress, since that made it clear it was all on the Spanish).

He's also referred to with that name in American classes on European/World history.

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The Kosovar reporter who made the Albanian eagle sign to Serbian fans after the England game has been kicked out of the Euros

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It's a shame, this is such a rare opportunity for Albania to be in a major tournament and this is what their fans and even their players (or at least one of them) are doing?!

 

 

 

 

 

Not to get off topic but when was the Greek island of Corfu (which they include as Albanian lands on these maps, even Dua Lipa posted it) ever inhabited by Albanians prior to Albanian migrants moving all over Greece in the 1990s after the fall of communism? This could be such a great moment for them as a country to be in a big tournament and they are really ruining it with all of this nationalism.

 

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Can't wait for Euro 2120 when maybe we'll start seeing less of these "no this is our land!" vs "no this is our land!" things going around in a certain part of Europe  (by then it's well over a century ago, surely that'll be long enough?)