Doping Cases and Bans 2019 Thread

[Olympian1010 7,976]

Now I have to admit that I don’t understand why people have turned their attention to Bolt and gone after him. There is no evidence to suggest he participated in a doping scheme or anything of the sort. Going after Briana and Coleman I get but Bolt I don’t understand. With the amount of retesting on samples that has been done on the last few Olympics there is there is little chance he was doping.

[heywoodu 15,141]

1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said:

Now I have to admit that I don’t understand why people have turned their attention to Bolt and gone after him. There is no evidence to suggest he participated in a doping scheme or anything of the sort. Going after Briana and Coleman I get but Bolt I don’t understand. With the amount of retesting on samples that has been done on the last few Olympics there is there is little chance he was doping.

Because he did insane things and was the absolute moneymaker of everything athletics. People watched athletics because of Bolt, people went to stadiums because of Bolt, no matter the ticket costs. Not saying he doped or something, I have no clue, but it's not like there would be no reason to kinda help cover something up or help stay under the radar.

[phelps 7,675]

6 hours ago, mrv86 said:

And yet, we will not see a sanction to US Track & Field... IAAF's double standards, covering English world athletes. I wouldn't be surprised that a few years from now the likes of Bolt & Farah are uncovered as cheaters.

 

well, all the Salazar gang up in Oregon has always been more than suspicious...he's well known to play dirty with rules and products he gives to his pupils (yesterday they were Farah and the US middle distance specialists who used to be almost as good as Farah himself and the Africans, nowadays is the Hassan/Klosterhalfen duo, who were just good but now they're a lap ahead of people like Dibaba and the other flying Ethiopians, already suspect enough by themselves)...

 

and the Jamaican wonders (Bolt included) have always been related to coach Seagrave (who was the mastermind behind the Ben Johnson's "project")...

 

so, those are the "facts", the "dangerous relationships" in the small world of top athletics...

 

then, everybody can think what they want...we're still in a free world (most of us, at least)...

Edited September 3, 2019 by phelps

[phelps 7,675]

3 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

Now I have to admit that I don’t understand why people have turned their attention to Bolt and gone after him. There is no evidence to suggest he participated in a doping scheme or anything of the sort. Going after Briana and Coleman I get but Bolt I don’t understand. With the amount of retesting on samples that has been done on the last few Olympics there is there is little chance he was doping.

 

see my previous post...

 

I guess just those 2/3 "dangerous relationships" are a good enough reason to have bad thoughts about all this "world"...

[Jan Linha 590]

Guys, there are just discussion without any proof. I honestly do not believe that Bolt has ever used any shit on purpose. We would have to be saying that everyone who is world class athletes dops? Anyone who breaks a world record dops? That is just nonsense. Let them be .....

 

One guy from WADA, forgot the name, said couple months ago that the current status of doping tests is that they catch those "stupid users" who are not careful enough and those, who really use some crap for years and keep winning, might be far ahead the current technology. But of course, this might be just a hoax. But who knows......

[bestmen 2,818]

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[heywoodu 15,141]

On 03/09/2019 at 16:05, Jan Linha said:

Guys, there are just discussion without any proof. I honestly do not believe that Bolt has ever used any shit on purpose. We would have to be saying that everyone who is world class athletes dops? Anyone who breaks a world record dops? That is just nonsense. Let them be .....

 

One guy from WADA, forgot the name, said couple months ago that the current status of doping tests is that they catch those "stupid users" who are not careful enough and those, who really use some crap for years and keep winning, might be far ahead the current technology. But of course, this might be just a hoax. But who knows......

Isn't that always the case though? How many times throughout the years have we heard 'now it's really better!' until some new scandal pops up and the whole thing repeats..

[Federer91 2,795]

On 03/09/2019 at 17:05, Jan Linha said:

 

One guy from WADA, forgot the name, said couple months ago that the current status of doping tests is that they catch those "stupid users" who are not careful enough and those, who really use some crap for years and keep winning, might be far ahead the current technology. But of course, this might be just a hoax. But who knows......

 

Bolt could the best in more ways then one. The Lance for the next generation.

[Olympian1010 7,976]

Just now, Federer91 said:

 

Bolt could the best in more ways then one. The Lance for the next generation.

The difference with Lance was that everyone knew, but they could never catch. As I said, with the amount of retesting that has been done on Rio 2016 and London 2012 samples, there’s almost no way Bolt was cheating. Just because someone is the best in a sport/event doesn’t automatically make them a doper. 

[heywoodu 15,141]

Just now, Olympian1010 said:

The difference with Lance was that everyone knew, but they could never catch. 

In the times when he was dominating, the general consensus among fans was not 'he is doping', but 'he is incredibly good'.