kungshamra71 892 Posted May 18, 2022 #451 Share Posted May 18, 2022 13 hours ago, Werloc said: Aaaaand it's getting worse...... Polish ESC fans started targeting Ukrainian jury members on social media. Why? BECAUSE THEY FOLLOWED THE RULES OF EUROVISION AND TRIED TO VOTE PROFESSIONALLY I'm so done with this stupidity. Ukraine is fighting a fucking war, ESC fans are becoming more and more insane every year. Death threats to the specialists that were working on Eurovision in Italy, massive cyber-bullying campaign against Switzerland for just fucking singing his heart out. But yeah, TIX got death threats last year as well, only because Keiino didn't win. I'm honestly hurt that such a contest breeds so much toxicity. I got attacked on Twitter for not liking Spain and Serbia this year, people need to separate the fact that disliking a song doesn't equal your country is trash and I hate it. I think people just become crazy online, very often i see dialogues like this on facebook or twitter: Person A - I like this Person B - I actually dont like this, i like something else more Person A - Oh yeah? then you should put your head on the railroad and let the train pass by you so you can DIE! (true story from some years ago! xD) People need to chill.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniSRB 899 Posted May 18, 2022 #452 Share Posted May 18, 2022 So real 2nd place is Spain Makedonas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,980 Posted May 19, 2022 #453 Share Posted May 19, 2022 On 5/17/2022 at 1:10 PM, Monzanator said: Six countries (Azerbaijan, Georgia, Montenegro, Poland, Romania & San Marino) had their jury votes annulled and EBU gave those points based on some mysterious voting patterns. Azerbaijan & Georgia jury wanted to give 12 points to Ukraine and EBU gave those 12 points to Great Britain The EBU put out a longer form explanation of this from their point of view today: https://eurovision.tv/mediacentre/release/ebu-statement-irregular-voting-2022 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 4,510 Posted May 19, 2022 #454 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: The EBU put out a longer form explanation of this from their point of view today: https://eurovision.tv/mediacentre/release/ebu-statement-irregular-voting-2022 It's a complete travesty of the voting system. EBU openly claims they can rig the voting whichever way they want to if only some songs that were supposed to be unpopular receive too many votes from certain countries that can be deemed "illegal". What an absolute joke that is. I guess EBU really wanted Great Britain to win? Sorry, they have to rig the votes a little more next year Makedonas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,980 Posted May 20, 2022 #455 Share Posted May 20, 2022 51 minutes ago, Monzanator said: It's a complete travesty of the voting system. EBU openly claims they can rig the voting whichever way they want to if only some songs that were supposed to be unpopular receive too many votes from certain countries that can be deemed "illegal". What an absolute joke that is. I guess EBU really wanted Great Britain to win? Sorry, they have to rig the votes a little more next year The evidence they present seems to allude to concerns about a vote sharing scheme, which one can definitely see being a potential issue worth clamping down on at Eurovision. However, if the EBU detects “irregular voting” they should just cancel those votes and not allow those countries to vote. That seems like a better solution in this situation to me. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 4,510 Posted May 20, 2022 #456 Share Posted May 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said: The evidence they present seems to allude to concerns about a vote sharing scheme, which one can definitely see being a potential issue worth clamping down on at Eurovision. However, if the EBU detects “irregular voting” they should just cancel those votes and not allow those countries to vote. That seems like a better solution in this situation to me. If you ban countries from voting they would probably pull out and ESC would go back to it's roots - you'll eventually be left with eight Western European countries + Australia. Only EBU can sell taking support away from Ukraine in this day & age as "irregular". What a bunch of clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle 976 Posted May 20, 2022 #457 Share Posted May 20, 2022 The real clowns are Poland and the other 5 countries which cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestmen 2,822 Posted May 20, 2022 #458 Share Posted May 20, 2022 it's the fault of Gassama , he is everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 3,425 Posted May 20, 2022 #459 Share Posted May 20, 2022 16 hours ago, Monzanator said: If you ban countries from voting they would probably pull out and ESC would go back to it's roots - you'll eventually be left with eight Western European countries + Australia. Only EBU can sell taking support away from Ukraine in this day & age as "irregular". What a bunch of clowns. Hey, what makes you think we want Australia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 4,510 Posted May 20, 2022 #460 Share Posted May 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Belle said: The real clowns are Poland and the other 5 countries which cheated. Well, if EBU decides that all jurors should vote for different songs and they can't like the same group of songs then why even hold the jury vote in first place? Has EBU ever questioned the Greece/Cyprus 12 point exchange as "irregular"? Since EBU decided to give 12 points to Great Britain instead of Ukraine it's clear EBU themselves rigged the voting to cost Ukraine the win. But they failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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