Agger 1,591 Posted June 20, 2018 #2511 Share Posted June 20, 2018 6 hours ago, OlympicsFan said: Please illuminate us ... Making it just 1 or 2 is a rather simplistic way of looking at it. It's also very much about tactics. Some of the underdogs managed to be ready and destroy the gameplan of the favourites. Is it the most interesting kind of football? No But Iceland being better prepared for the Argentinian team than Argentina was for the Icelandic doesn't mean that we can just say that Argentina was bad. No doubt they were below what we would expect from a team of their quality, but that was not just Argentina playing bad, but also Iceland being well prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerMne 624 Posted June 20, 2018 #2512 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Iranians are real gentlemens. Pitty they wont (probably) qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestmen 2,564 Posted June 20, 2018 #2513 Share Posted June 20, 2018 the day of 1-0 so at the end POR will lead the Group , and in 1/8 ESP vs RUS POR vs URU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestmen 2,564 Posted June 20, 2018 #2514 Share Posted June 20, 2018 in the same time IRN is not eliminated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 783 Posted June 20, 2018 #2515 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) vor 23 Minuten schrieb Agger: Making it just 1 or 2 is a rather simplistic way of looking at it. It's also very much about tactics. Some of the underdogs managed to be ready and destroy the gameplan of the favourites. Is it the most interesting kind of football? No But Iceland being better prepared for the Argentinian team than Argentina was for the Icelandic doesn't mean that we can just say that Argentina was bad. No doubt they were below what we would expect from a team of their quality, but that was not just Argentina playing bad, but also Iceland being well prepared. There are different degrees of good and bad, let's say that if teams like Argentina would play at their best, then there would be nothing teams like Iceland could do to get a draw/win (except for getting extremely lucky/bribing the referee). The fact that those small teams still get good results shows me that the big teams are not at their best. If we assume that big teams have about the same individual strength as they used to and are about as prepared for those small teams as they always were, then i have to conclude that most players of the big teams (who play in big leagues) are just not fully fit/very exhausted from a long season. Some people find joy in small teams getting surprising results, but for me my joy when watching football depends on the quality of football i see (e.g. spectacular goals, great dribbling, great passes). So far i haven't seen a lot of those things, so for me the quality of football so far has been poor. Edit: I don't think there is a non-simplistic way of trying to discuss this topic on here (unless we want to write pages of in depth analysis), if you want to be able to discuss a topic like this on a platform as this one, you are probably bound to make simplifying assumptions. Edited June 20, 2018 by OlympicsFan Pavlo 1 Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoversaBR 281 Posted June 20, 2018 #2516 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Iran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 13,258 Posted June 20, 2018 #2517 Share Posted June 20, 2018 but if Iran will play like in the second half and PortuCR7gal like they played today, Iran has still some chances IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted June 20, 2018 #2518 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Oh well, they won by an own goal against Morocco. Now they had goal cancelled by VAR. Balance. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepharoah 2,287 Posted June 20, 2018 #2519 Share Posted June 20, 2018 That was an intersting match after Spain scored Hard luck Iran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepharoah 2,287 Posted June 20, 2018 #2520 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I think players that Spain left home could have been really useful at least on bench , i wonder how u let players like Marcos alonso , Morata , Fabregas and Martinez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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