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[VolleyRuller96 264]

All countries BUT Poland support Donald Tusk's reelection  Poland raises from it's knees indeed

[Pavlo 141]

29 minut temu, VolleyRuller96 napisał:

All countries BUT Poland support Donald Tusk's reelection  Poland raises from it's knees indeed

Polish shame goes on, and PiS dares to say that PO is anti-Polish...well...who keeps sanctions on Russia...not Tusk?

 

it`s all unbelievable, propaganda like in USSR+III Reich or worse

[Майкл 561]

1 hour ago, VolleyRuller96 said:

All countries BUT Poland support Donald Tusk's reelection  Poland raises from it's knees indeed

 

If I got it right, Kaczynski claims that Tusk is Merkel's candidate whose main goal is to destroy Poland. Right?   

Edited March 6, 2017 by Майкл

[Agger 1,662]

I've just reached a personal milestone, as I saturday was selected as a candidate for the social liberal party to the municipal council in Aarhus (2nd largest city in Denmark).

Hope that doesn't make the people hating politicians hate me

[Gianlu33 4,542]

38 minutes ago, Agger said:

I've just reached a personal milestone, as I saturday was selected as a candidate for the social liberal party to the municipal council in Aarhus (2nd largest city in Denmark).

Hope that doesn't make the people hating politicians hate me

Good luck for the elections 

SV is the danish party that i support in Denmark,I hope that they'll back at the goverermanent.

Btw, today it's an amazing moment the european left-wing party, Macron in France in the polls has recovered points on Le Pen and in Bulgaria Borisov resigned after he failed to form a government. Just days before the Dutch elections we can say that a different Europe is possible  

 

 

Edited March 8, 2017 by Gianlu33

[Agger 1,662]

11 hours ago, Gianlu33 said:

Good luck for the elections 

SV is the danish party that i support in Denmark,I hope that they'll back at the goverermanent.

Btw, today it's an amazing moment the european left-wing party, Macron in France in the polls has recovered points on Le Pen and in Bulgaria Borisov resigned after he failed to form a government. Just days before the Dutch elections we can say that a different Europe is possible  

 

 

SV? Do you mean SF (Socialistic Peoples party)?
If so, I doubt they will be back in government soon.
Their time in government was tough with them not really getting what they wanted and their members weren't too happy about most of the compromises. 
Though they have a slightly stronger leader than back then, I don't think they'll want to be in government in the nearest future.

 

 

Edit: Or do you mean RV?

Edited March 9, 2017 by Agger

[Federer91 2,788]

8 hours ago, Gianlu33 said:

in Bulgaria Borisov resigned after he failed to form a government. 

 

 

Not quite.  Borisov resigned in november after his candidate didn't win the presidency. Now we have an interim parlament until the new elections are carried out in the end of march. He has made mistakes, but nothing compared to the other option for power the socialist party (aka the historial communist party) in coalition with the etnic turskish party, which would be a nightmare scenario if they return. Those two have led to the biggest crimes and backword tragectory in the country since the fall of socialism.

 

It's amazing how stupid and ignorant are people here, when it comes to the socialist party. 4 years ago, when they were last in power, they chose a notable crime lord to head the police department () and of course there were massive protests until they changed him. Also one of the biggest banks bankrupted after huge frauds were done and money disappeared and the country had to pay billions to the ordinary people. And this after only a 1 year  governing at which the people booted them out. In that time the socialist party were at an all time low rating of 12% and fast-forward 4 years all that is forgotten and it's once again going to 27-30%  People get what they give 

[Agger 1,662]

On 6/3/2017 at 15:44, VolleyRuller96 said:

All countries BUT Poland support Donald Tusk's reelection  Poland raises from it's knees indeed

 

Just read about the accusations against Tusk about the plane crash in 2010. Wow! 

[heywoodu 15,121]

9 hours ago, Gianlu33 said:

Just days before the Dutch elections we can say that a different Europe is possible  

 

 

 

Thanks for reminding me, I still have absolutely no idea what to vote but I think I don't have a lot of time anymore to choose 

 

 

[heywoodu 15,121]

These are the latest polls (two days ago) for the Dutch elections:

 

 

 

TK2012 = Number of seats for the named party at the 2012 elections

12-2 / 5-3 / 7-3 =  Number of seats in the polls of that day

'Versch' = Difference with the previous poll / difference with the 12-2 poll / difference with the 2012 elections

 

Two of the historically big parties are losing with especially the centre-left PvdA (Partij van de Arbeid/Labour Party) losing a shitload of seats. Since the second World War they have had less than 30 seats only three times and they have never had less than 20 seats, but are now down to a projected 9.

 

Whereas PvdA is centre-left, VVD (the party of our current prime-minister and together with PvdA the big winners of last time) is somewhat centre-right and they're losing a whole lot too. They are climbing back up though in recent weeks and are now, for the first time since 2015, the largest party in the polls. 

 

PVV is Geert Wilders' right-wing party, which I'm sure doesn't need a lot of introduction. Thanks to a whole lot of stuff like terrorist attacks and the immigration debate they've had a perfect opportunity to grow a lot, more than doubling their 2012 seats, but they are losing in recent weeks.

 

CDA is set to be rather big again, after some meager years. This is the centre/centre-right Christian party that had our previous prime-minister. The biggest growth so far seems to be surprisingly for GroenLinks ('GreenLeft', translated literally). Officially they are centre-left and all about 'green' stuff and environmental issues and their young, charismatic leader has so far brought them way above their record of 11 seats. They somewhat talk with the wind though (I guess that's part of being an environmental party) and don't seem to be incredibly strong about their principles.

 

D66 is probably our most 'centre' party, with slightly left tendences in social aspects and slightly right tendencies in economical aspects and also pro-European. They've never been a huge player (although they had a huge spike of 24 seats in 1994) but are usually around, filling up the gaps in a coalition and otherwise just enjoying their role in the opposition. 

 

SP is the most left party we have, ChristenUnie is somewhat centre (slightly more right) and as the name suggest, Christian-based, Partij voor de Dieren is the 'Party for the Animals' and almost puts animal rights above human rights, 50PLUS is the party that only thinks about older people and their leader is a way too emotional guy for rational politics.

 

SGP is sort of the more extreme version of ChristenUnie: the oldest political party in the Netherlands, very strictly Christian and insanely stable in the elections, always getting 2-3 votes because their 'fan base' always stays the same. People who are of their religious belief vote for them whatever they say so they don't lose those voters, and people who aren't of their belief won't vote for them so they don't win voters. Interestingly they're also not very active in the campaigns because they know they'll get their 2-3 seats. Good thing about them: they don't care what others want from them, they always stick to their principles which I think is admirable even if you don't agree with them at all. Side note: they're usually the biggest party in my little Bible Belt hometown, hurray. 

 

DENK is a party founded last year (or the year before) by two Turkish-Dutch politicians who went out from their Dutch party and now have some sort of a "Erdogan is a hero"-kind of freak club there. Loved by a small part, hated by most. 

 

As for myself, there's a few parties I'm definitely not voting for:

- PVV (because Wilders)

- DENK (because Erdogan)

- SGP (because religion should be separate from the state)

- SP (way, way too left)

- GroenLinks (don't like their leader)

- 50PLUS (don't like their leader)

 

I'm mostly doubting between VVD and D66, staying somewhere in the centre