[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

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58 minutes ago, copravolley said:

Bill Clinton and Tony Blair were more liberals than socialists. It was simply that life was good then, the economy was booming and there was relative peace. Besides, Russia and China were weak.

 

Except this 1996 act was probably the longest-lasting social effect of Clinton's tenure and helped to drop poverty until the immigration rise became a political topic again. After all let's don't pretend immigration to USA never happened until 2010s.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Responsibility_and_Work_Opportunity_Act

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[NearPup 3,034]

Elissa Slotkin winning the Michigan senate seat is definitively something that will confound some naratives.

 

Hard to imagine that the Muslim and Pro Palestinian protest vote had that much of a real impact if Harris lost Michigan while a Jewish and very pro-Israel Democrat won the open senate seat in the state with the highest Muslim population nation.

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4 hours ago, Federer91 said:

I see you are not very familiar with American politics and how they work, otherwise you would know why a non-consecutive second term is much more historic, than a regular incumbent being reelected.

The think about you writing about is rarer but that doesn't mean that you can belittle, for example, Obama, who won twice in a row. What was he supposed to do at that time? Deliberately lose in 2012 so he could run in 2016? He couldn't have run more than twice. In Trump's case, it's more the downfall of the USA itself: first of all, the lack of credible and capable leaders at a younger age. After all, what happened in 2020 in elections was a parody: two old guys (one with dementia, the other clown with numerous court judgments). Then you wonder why Putin and the leader from China aren't afraid of the USA, since they have such incompetent people as opponents. It hurts me a lot because in the 90s I admired the USA and Clinton was a role model od modern leader in Europe and now? Looking at their elections and their leaders I just smile bitterly.

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11 hours ago, rybak said:

I think that its time to cancel USA as a world leader...

I think it's already slowly happening. These things happen on their own, not because someone decides to.