[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[Olympian1010 8,297]

3 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

We know Hollywood doesn't tell the truth and it's only a dramatised version of events. If US people treat Hollywood movies like the "ultimate and only truth" then it's a bigger problem and has little to do with the subject itself. Ted Bundy & Charles Manson are on the rise again and I wonder how many people thought about watching the Tarantino movie and the Zac Efron role that these guys maybe weren't that bad after all. Hollywood & US media in general have a long history of glorifying crime & murder so I don't expect censoring Gone with the Wind will have any significant impact on how the slavery is viewed IMO.

Adding a prompt to the description of the movie, or right before it begins, that begins a discussion about the greater historical context of movie doesn’t seem like a bad thing to me. It certainly isn’t censorship. We have put off serious discussions about these topics for generations, and you can see it has affected people.

[Monzanator 5,093]

1 minute ago, Olympian1010 said:

Adding a prompt to the description of the movie, or right before it begins, that begins a discussion about the greater historical context of movie doesn’t seem like a bad thing to me. It certainly isn’t censorship. We have put off serious discussions about these topics for generations, and you can see it has affected people.

It's not HBO's responsibility to teach history though. We know USA tries to buy themselves a clear consciousness but some one-off description before a single movie ain't gonna do the trick nationwide IMO. Even George Washington was a slave owner and I don't think his statues are going down anytime soon. USA isn't progressive enough for that to happen

[Federer91 3,376]

Have to see if Warner have altered the Looney Tunes and Tom & Herry shorts the way Disney are changing some of their stuff. 

[Olympian1010 8,297]

3 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

It's not HBO's responsibility to teach history though. We know USA tries to buy themselves a clear consciousness but some one-off description before a single movie ain't gonna do the trick nationwide IMO. Even George Washington was a slave owner and I don't think his statues are going down anytime soon. USA isn't progressive enough for that to happen

Actually it is. If you’re going to make a movie with a false depiction of the time period available, then you should provide a lesson in the greater history of the time period. 

[Agger 1,841]

3 minutes ago, Federer91 said:

Have to see if Warner have altered the Looney Tunes and Tom & Herry shorts the way Disney are changing some of their stuff. 

 

Hasn't Disney just put a disclaimer?

[Olympian1010 8,297]

5 minutes ago, Agger said:

 

Hasn't Disney just put a disclaimer?

That’s censorship and rewriting history! We should march into the streets and demand justice. How dare they try to inform us! ?

 

Honesty, people are way too upset over this. How about you get upset about the institutional racism that led us here in the first place.

[Monzanator 5,093]

9 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

That’s censorship and rewriting history! We should march into the streets and demand justice. How dare they try to inform us! ?

 

Honesty, people are way too upset over this. How about you get upset about the institutional racism that led us here in the first place.

 

It's a by-product of progressive or liberal people being offended by just about anything in return. We live in the entitlement era after all. I tell you, if this was some LGBT show taken down, social media would be burning with anger right now and HBO would be forced to apologize in public. Sweeping Gone with the Wind under the carpet like it's no censorship doesn't hold much ground.

[heywoodu 16,459]

1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said:

It’s always interesting the see issues which @heywoodu takes a stand on. So far it’s the destruction of a few statues made for bad people, and the destruction of businesses that have profited off marginalized communities.

I don't think there's much need to copy-paste everyone else's "There's racism and that's bad" and just turn it into a discussion with nothing but "Yes, I agree" posts.

 

But sure, if that's what you take away from my posts (including those where I'm more than once saying how the peaceful protests are absolutely justified, how psychos like Chauvin need to be dealth with, and so on), go ahead I mean, it's not true, but feel free to think so. We don't have enough "You don't completely agree with everything I say, so you are completely against everything I stand for" talk on internet yet these days.

[Olympian1010 8,297]

8 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

It's a by-product of progressive or liberal people being offended by just about anything in return. We live in the entitlement era after all. I tell you, if this was some LGBT show taken down, social media would be burning with anger right now and HBO would be forced to apologize in public. Sweeping Gone with the Wind under the carpet like it's no censorship doesn't hold much ground.

Delete. This post didn’t accomplish anything outside of partisanship and simple insults (referring to my original post).

[heywoodu 16,459]

1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said:

I agree that people should absolutely be looked at from all angles. However, I also understand that we shouldn’t honor people who traded slaves, or killed natives, or fought to keep people enslaved.

Which is why I almost literally said statues of people who did nothing but be involved in stuff like slave trading only have a place in a museum, where people actively go to learn about history and stuff - people really aren't going to a museum to 'honor' someone.