Speed Skating ISU World Cup 2017 - 2018

[De_Gambassi 1,225]

il y a 4 minutes, heywoodu a déclaré:

 

They skate with their names on the suits, that's exposure. They train as a team and function as a team, which is why you often see people from one team all perform good or bad roughly at the same time. The exposure is them skating with the suits of sponsors. 

 

Well, I get that. My interrogation is not sponsors, what are they for ? But why, in one case (speed skating) the sponsors led to the creation of commercial teams, and that in pretty every other cases it didn't (some of them being much more popular sports than speed skating).

[heywoodu 15,174]

1 minute ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

Well, I get that. My interrogation is not sponsors, what are they for ? But why, in one case (speed skating) the sponsors led to the creation of commercial teams, and that in pretty every other cases it didn't (some of them being much more popular sports than speed skating).

 

Because it worked and everyone thought "hey, this works, let's keep doing it"  

[De_Gambassi 1,225]

il y a 1 minute, heywoodu a déclaré:

 

Because it worked and everyone thought "hey, this works, let's keep doing it"  

 

Maybe 

 

Who was the first commercial team ?

[heywoodu 15,174]

3 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

Maybe 

 

Who was the first commercial team ?

 

Rintje Ritsma, one of the best ever, had enough of skating for the national federation (which didn't exactly provide much of a living) and said goodbye to them in 1995. Eventually he/his manager started the first commercial team (Sanex), which eventually became the famous (in speed skating) TVM team, with the likes of Kramer. TVM stopped a few years ago and the main team now is LottoNL-Jumbo, which I believe was the second commercial team in 1998 (as SpaarSelect). 

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanex_(schaatsploeg)

Edited March 17, 2018 by heywoodu

[NearPup 3,072]

Would I be right to say that sprinters (especially in the 500m) seem to take the world cup a lot more seriously than especially the long distance skaters?

[heywoodu 15,174]

53 minutes ago, Nate River said:

Would I be right to say that sprinters (especially in the 500m) seem to take the world cup a lot more seriously than especially the long distance skaters?

Hard to say. For example Sven Kramer is sort of injured and I guess there's no reason for him to risk getting hurt more just for a World Cup (which doesn't mean that much considering he's got 9 world allround titles for starters)  

[NearPup 3,072]

5 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Hard to say. For example Sven Kramer is sort of injured and I guess there's no reason for him to risk getting hurt more just for a World Cup (which doesn't mean that much considering he's got 9 world allround titles for starters)  

I don’t mean this farce of a world cup finale specifically, I mean in general.

[heywoodu 15,174]

Herzog thought she won the 500m, and then, minutes later, the time of Russian Golikova gets changed to a 0,10 seconds (!) faster time all of a sudden resulting in Golikova as winner 

 

Yeah, this fits perfectly in this insane farce of a World Cup final.