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Speed Skating ISU World Cup 2017 - 2018


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Oh and those numbers on the helmets that have NOTHING to do with the numbers on the start lists on ISU's website are highly irritating as well. Just like a complete lack of graphics. If you can show lap times every lap in single distances, why not show a simple top-3/5 in a small bit of the screen every lap, just to make it easier to track who's in front? 

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4 minutes ago, Nate River said:

But the points... all it does it make things confusing for no reason. The whole point of a mass start is the simplicity of the first person crossing the line winning.

 

That's just it. Sprints don't have any influence on the final top 3 whatsoever! :p

 

Here with semifinals they actually do have some meaning. Like Lollobrigida who fell and still progressed because of the sprint (whether that's good or not doesn't matter...). Olympics will have just the final so sprints will be completely, but COMPLETELY, useless.

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If a medalist gets disqualified for doping who gets the bronze medal? The person who was fourth at the line or the person that had the fourth most points?

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1 minute ago, Nate River said:

If a medalist gets disqualified for doping who gets the bronze medal? The person who was fourth at the line or the person that had the fourth most points?

Probably the person who got the most points at the annual ISU Gala Skee-Ball tournament or something, judging by how logical the mass start format is. 

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Just now, Nate River said:

If a medalist gets disqualified for doping who gets the bronze medal? The person who was fourth at the line or the person that had the fourth most points?

 

Well, there's that, but for race itself in terms of final top 3 nothing can be changed by intermediate sprints.

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2 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

Well, there's that, but for race itself in terms of final top 3 nothing can be changed by intermediate sprints.

So for fuck's sake, DON'T HAVE INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS if they don't change the medal outcomes anyway!?! cry.gif :facepalm:

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Just now, heywoodu said:

So for fuck's sake, DON'T HAVE INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS if they don't change the medal outcomes anyway!?! cry.gif :facepalm:

I read it on an Italian website.. they use the intermediate sprint for make more easy the individual actions in the middle of the race.. very stupid concept

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1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

So for fuck's sake, DON'T HAVE INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS if they don't change the medal outcomes anyway!?! cry.gif :facepalm:

 

But if you sprint and waste all of your energy mid-race, there's a good chance you'll get that awesome 4th place! :cheer:

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2 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

So for fuck's sake, DON'T HAVE INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS if they don't change the medal outcomes anyway!?! cry.gif :facepalm:

It's for the same morons that think being second at Risk means you did better than the person who finished third so they play in a way that forecloses their chances of being first.

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2 minutes ago, Gianlu33 said:

I read it on an Italian website.. they use the intermediate sprint for make more easy the individual actions in the middle of the race.. very stupid concept

It kind of makes sense in the world cup, since minor placings matter there. But at the Olympics? If nothing else you want to *avoid* finishing fourth because finishing fourth sucks.

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