Football 2021 Discussion Thread

[vlad 377]

Lewandowski and Salah are the best in this moment, but I don't understand the criteria why Messi won this trophy. I have nothing against him, I like him, but he don't deserve the Ballon d'Or this year. Also, Jorginho on the podium. Why ? just because he scores from penalties? These type of trophies should be cancelled because they are a big disgrace already. 

[LDOG 2,418]

  On 11/30/2021 at 12:30 AM, thepharoah said:

 

i can't remember a player that his team got eliminated from UCL R16 and won Ballon d'or at the end , and for Copa America Suarez won it in Argentina with full attendance in 2011 and with much better quality of football than last tournament and didn't win ballon d'or , nor Sanchez or Vidal won it when they won Copa America in 2016 with full attendance also and with more teams and much better quality despite the face they were on fire also with their teams , neither Alisson or Fabinho in 2019 when they were champions of Europe , Copa America wasn't always a tournament that decides ballon d'or winner , it became of this importance this year just because Messi won it 

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I said it's a balance between titles and individual performance, not that x title is decisive. 

 

In 2011 Messi won UCL scoring a million goals in the year, of course he was going to win it over Suárez. Same for Cristiano in 2016.

 

 

Anyway, it's not a problem that you think Lewandowski should have won. The problem is that you said Messi shouldn't be even top 5 

[heywoodu 15,335]

  On 11/29/2021 at 10:51 PM, thepharoah said:

 

what did he do throughout the year , his team conceded 4 from Paris and 8 from Bayern in UCL last 2 seasons , he barely scored his 1st goal in ligue 1 on GW 12 , no la liga , are Copa del rey and Copa America enough for Ballon d'or ? i don't think so , if it's by trophies then no one deserve it more than Jorginho , if it's by stats and trophies also no one is better than Liwa , with all due respect to Messi but this's one of the biggest thefts in history of football and i really lost trust in this prize more than even in the past  

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Was a defender even nominated?  

 

I saw there's a shitload of criticism about Messi winning (of course his name helps), but somehow it's mostly about "Lewandowski broke records!" and all that stuff. Or is it just the usual "Defenders don't really count, because they're not the shirt-selling superstars"?  

[Dunadan 1,103]

Full top 5 by each voter from each country nowhere to be found yet, after a day? Clearly rigged then.

[Federer91 2,890]

People still caring about this "award"..   Even Vladimir is making more transparent elections in Russia, than the shiny Ballon d

[thepharoah 2,405]

  On 11/30/2021 at 2:43 PM, heywoodu said:

Was a defender even nominated?  

 

I saw there's a shitload of criticism about Messi winning (of course his name helps), but somehow it's mostly about "Lewandowski broke records!" and all that stuff. Or is it just the usual "Defenders don't really count, because they're not the shirt-selling superstars"?  

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mix of all of this  , no defenders in top 10 is another weirdo thing especially when u have players like Rudiger , Tiago Silva and Ruben Dias who made an extraordinary season , but it looks like only la liga player have the right to win something 

[LuizGuilherme 280]

Marquinhos in my opinion is the best defender in the world and wasnt even in top 30.

[Makedonas 2,197]

  On 11/27/2021 at 1:28 PM, maestro said:

In women's world cup qualifiers.

 

On Thursday, Belgium-Armenia 19-0, which has to be the biggest win ever in european world cup qualifiers.

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England beat Latvia 20-0 on Tuesday!

[thepharoah 2,405]

 

Lovren nailed it 

[thepharoah 2,405]

 

In a parallel universe these were Ballon d'or choices from Sri Lanka journalist