Men's Basketball FIBA World Cup 2023

[heywoodu 15,147]

On 4/27/2023 at 10:00 PM, George_D said:

i am 100% against naturalized players. The national identity of teams is lost.

Not a single exception? I mean, I'm not a fan of players being naturalized because they've played for a club in the country for a year or because their greatgrandmother happened to be from the country, but what about the (admittedly more rare) cases where someone has genuinely moved to a new country and built a sustainable life there?

 

For example in athletics, there's a huge difference between all those Kenyans competing for Bahrain and Turkey and whatnot due to the money, and someone like Lonah Salpeter, who competes for Israel but actually has her entire life there for many years already (working there, getting married and raising a family there, living there etc) and is arguably more Israeli than most of their US-based baseball players for example.

[George_D 1,205]

3 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Not a single exception? I mean, I'm not a fan of players being naturalized because they've played for a club in the country for a year or because their greatgrandmother happened to be from the country, but what about the (admittedly more rare) cases where someone has genuinely moved to a new country and built a sustainable life there?

 

For example in athletics, there's a huge difference between all those Kenyans competing for Bahrain and Turkey and whatnot due to the money, and someone like Lonah Salpeter, who competes for Israel but actually has her entire life there for many years already (working there, getting married and raising a family there, living there etc) and is arguably more Israeli than most of their US-based baseball players for example.

yes true but the exceptions will be used as a "base" for bypassing any rules that can restrict the naturalizations...

[Bearas 521]

Finally, 56 mins in and after having to listen to all American rappers and very bad interviews, we will see the draw!

[Bearas 521]

Great, even if  mades it through first stage, it's against  in second round 

[Makedonas 2,155]

 in the same group with , what a ridiculous format this is!

[Bearas 521]

Not more ''entertainment''  Can we just finish the draw finally!! 

[Makedonas 2,155]

I don't mean to be disrespectful to other nations, but these draws are so imbalanced. You have one group with teams ranked 1 and 9, and then another group with teams ranked 10 and 40...

[heywoodu 15,147]

21 minutes ago, George_D said:

yes true but the exceptions will be used as a "base" for bypassing any rules that can restrict the naturalizations...

One big step would be something like a (not so easy) language test, to make sure people competing for a certain country at the very least have no problems speaking the language of said country. Someone who's just going to play there for a year or two probably won't make that, on average, whereas someone who actually builds a life and family and everything there most likely will.

 

But yeah, it will always remain a difficult situation I suppose.

[Bearas 521]

10 minutes ago, Makedonas said:

 in the same group with , what a ridiculous format this is!

Group A is just a joke...

[Makedonas 2,155]

3 minutes ago, Bearas said:

Group A is just a joke...

So it will probably be  for two spots in the quarterfinals, meanwhile  is basically guaranteed to be in the quarterfinals...