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Since it's already a week later, I think it's safe to assume @Wanderer and @Belle are both not interested in organizing the contest (to be clear: no judgement, anyone can be busy, just not have the time or motivation to do so or any other reason, no worries)? -
By copravolley · Posted
Belarus has only itself to blame for taking part in Putin's war, even though it got nothing out of it. Other countries from the former USSR didn`t take part in this war and are not subject to any sanctions, e.g. Kazakhstan, Georgia, etc. This simply shows that Belarus is no longer an independent country, but a part of Russia, because Lukashenko makes decisions in line with the interests of Russia, not his own country. In addition, many athletes from BLR play under a neutral flag, e.g. Sabalenka is even No. 1 in women's tennis -
This is definitely something that should be looked at. Doping enhances your performance, so does messing with equipment. Like in cross-country skiing: if your skis are positive for fluor, you get a DQ for that competition, but that's it (or you can even have them tested before the race and have no punishment at all, like two of the Brazilians in the Trondheim world championships having their skis test positive, likely due to using fluor in a race in January where it was announced there would not be a fluor test). If your urine tests positive for EPO, the problem is significantly bigger.
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Both massive state-sponsored doping and the whole war thing are a bit of a different situation than this Norway ski jumping case, to be fair. I'm going to assume the Norwegian prime minister or king wasn't involved in these decisions.
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Yes, ok, but what are the exact things Austria is supposed to be cheating with? We know what the Norwegians did, including video evidence, so what about the Austrians other than "but they do it too!"?
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Sure, i assume that it was known. To be true how we can imagine the opposite? Fooling ourselves? Because they are Norwegian? Would we all be so cautious about Kenyans? And hey, in a way i think the same. How can you prove that every punished Russian athlete knew about the war? Supports it? What is the diffference? And what about Belarus athletes? For what they are punished? So if you cant prove anything to almost any Belarus athlete and we still punish them why not do it with rich ones 🙂. We have to decide wheather we punish all countries or only some. If not the whole country ok, whole nordic ski. How would it differ from Belarus punishment?🙂 -
By copravolley · Posted
For now, it must be proven that the entire Norwegian staff, athletes etc. knew about it, and not, for example, 1-2 people. Then, appropriate penal regulations can be introduced, but they still will not be able to be retroactive. There is no such thing in the law that someone has to prove their innocence - it's exactly the opposite- it`s he who must be proven guilty. -
Because they knew it all, they had to see it. If their whole system was a cheat they were conscious parts of this. So why some Russian athletes can pay the price of the whole system and Norwegian not. Sure, how to punish Norwegian sport is to discus but in general, like with Russia. With some small individual exclusions if proven that athlete is clear. I mean that we should use similar methods. If there is sexual harrasment in whole crew guys know it. Are they guilty? Imo yes. Just example.
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By copravolley · Posted
The Russians had their ROC and competed until the war began and I'm sure they'll be back this year if peace is reached. I don't understand why Sundal or Granerud shouldn't start because Lindvik did something wrong... Especially since Lindvik has already been punished - he lost his silver medal in large hill. In the case of doping there are clear rules regarding disqualification but in the case of equipment you probably only get a disqualification for specific competitions, nothing more. Of course, FIS can create new rules for penalties, but the law is not retroactive... -
Yes but possible war is dangerous to US. Good side, we are waking from populists dream. If we had pis now, oh gosh. Luckiy this goverment is able to raise it all from ashes and our position probably be stronger. But hey, wild wild east??? 🙂. Imagine this, american corporations with strong military security exploring Donbas??? It would be easier to get lithium from Mars. Is this sci fi class D? Russia is to accept it? So Ukraine is the new Dune? 🙂🙂🙂. It looks like kindergarten level scenario to me. And if Zelenski just sold to Trump the part of his country under the control of Putin...well, good deal bro 🙂
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