Boxing at the Summer Olympic Games Paris 2024

[Pavlo 141]

17 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said:

There's no easy answer for this and can sometimes get a bit philosophical. "What is a woman?" "Does the sport classification of a woman differ?" "If so, in what ways?" "Do some biological women not fit the definition of a sports classification woman?" "Can some trans women fit the definition of a sports classification woman?"

 

Not a fun exercise...

Or male athletes with lower hormonal level...let them increase it? Sure no but in mediana we are looking for ideal world / rules/ justice. Non-existent idea. We are not ideal, this is not a theory. Bad luck for women imo that they are under stronger pressure of characteristics "proving they are female". Often created by us. We have it much easier. Male looking woman has i think much more difficult life than "female looking male". Imagine....😉 Oh Lennon, you were right. 

Edited August 12 by Pavlo

[pdr4332 218]

I want to ask a question:

A local Russia specialist wrote about this saga and Russia’s role in it and he says one of the two boxers in question (maybe Khalif but not remember which one) defeated a Russian boxer who was unbeaten before. After that came the DQ which conveniently erased this result thereby restoring the Russian’s unbeaten-ness. He says that there might be why the Russian influenced IBA took up this issue at that particular time. (Seemingly it did not bother them that these two athletes competed for a while in IBA events)

What do you think about this? Might there be sth in his assertion?

[NearPup 3,045]

8 minutes ago, Pavlo said:

Or male athletes with lower hormonal level...let them increase it? Sure no but in mediana we are looking for ideal world / rules/ justice. Non-existent idea. We are not ideal, this is not a theory. Bad luck for women imo that they are under stronger pressure of characteristics "proving they are female". Often created by us. We have it much easier. Male looking woman has i think much more difficult life than "female looking male". Imagine....😉 Oh Lennon, you were right. 

There is also a point where having too low of hormones levels should qualify you for a TUE, because it becomes a health hazzard.

[NearPup 3,045]

Just now, pdr4332 said:

I want to ask a question:

A local Russia specialist wrote about this saga and Russia’s role in it and he says one of the two boxers in question (maybe Khalif but not remember which one) defeated a Russian boxer who was unbeaten before. After that came the DQ which conveniently erased this result thereby restoring the Russian’s unbeaten-ness. He says that there might be why the Russian influenced IBA took up this issue at that particular time. (Seemingly it did not bother them that these two athletes competed for a while in IBA events)

What do you think about this? Might there be sth in his assertion?

Both things can be true at the same time: maybe the current Olympic boxing rules aren't adequately handling athletes with DSD *and* maybe these two boxers were targeted because they defeated Russian boxers.

 

Either way, I do feel we should take everything the IBA says with a lot of skepticism.

[pdr4332 218]

40 minutes ago, NearPup said:

Both things can be true at the same time: maybe the current Olympic boxing rules aren't adequately handling athletes with DSD *and* maybe these two boxers were targeted because they defeated Russian boxers.

I agree with this.

[Jon 43]

Two of the boxing judges and referees (both Kazakh) were stood down during the Olympics due to corruption fears, only after they had judged/refereed almost 50 bouts. They were removed from duties prior to the medal bouts.

 

Nine judges/referees at the tournament were included in the ‘high risk’ of corruption category by McClaren.

https://www.thetimes.com/sport/boxing/article/two-boxing-officials-were-stood-down-midway-through-olympics-2cqzzpg8s

[Orangehair43 251]

When is the final decision of the IOC.

[bestmen 2,817]

and Khelif did it ,Elon Musk is in her sue 

much money is coming

 

I can even add many users in this forum , sadly you are poor like a chiken under rain 

 

 

 

https://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/boxe/imane-khelif-elon-musk-et-j-k-rowling-vises-par-la-plainte-pour-cyber-harcelement-de-la-boxeuse-a40c9fc2-5a0b-11ef-aca8-aadd4a56ff25

[Thagard 61]

On 8/14/2024 at 3:38 PM, bestmen said:

and Khelif did it ,Elon Musk is in her sue 

much money is coming

 

I can even add many users in this forum , sadly you are poor like a chiken under rain 

 

 

 

https://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/boxe/imane-khelif-elon-musk-et-j-k-rowling-vises-par-la-plainte-pour-cyber-harcelement-de-la-boxeuse-a40c9fc2-5a0b-11ef-aca8-aadd4a56ff25

Put Trump there too.

Edited August 15 by Thagard

[bestmen 2,817]

J.k rowling , i understand why harry potter didn't find the secret of his chamber