Boxing Olympic Rankings

[Dragon 1,844]

Here's a question.

If a boxer qualifies for the Olympics as a member of the refugee team then gets citizenship of another country, do they lose that qualification, does it transfer to their new country or does something else happen.

Thinking of Cindy Ngamba, the middleweight who has brilliant this week at the World Boxing Cup for the refugee team, but is also still waiting for her British citizenship.

[phelps 7,678]

1 hour ago, Dragon said:

Here's a question.

If a boxer qualifies for the Olympics as a member of the refugee team then gets citizenship of another country, do they lose that qualification, does it transfer to their new country or does something else happen.

Thinking of Cindy Ngamba, the middleweight who has brilliant this week at the World Boxing Cup for the refugee team, but is also still waiting for her British citizenship.

not sure at 100%, but I think that once she gets the passport and declares for she would lose any privilege (qualification included) reserved to the refugee team members and she would have to try and qualify for her new Home Nation through the regular pathway

[MHSN 3,625]

1 hour ago, phelps said:

not sure at 100%, but I think that once she gets the passport and declares for she would lose any privilege (qualification included) reserved to the refugee team members and she would have to try and qualify for her new Home Nation through the regular pathway

In a normal world yes you are right. but with current IOC no

 

Raheleh Asemani qualified for the refugee team in Taekwondo back in 2016 (she even beat the Belgian athlete in her route to the quota) but got her Belgian passport in time.

 

they probably managed to bribe the right person and here we go, she went to Rio and even almost won a  medal for Belgium.  it's just about meeting the right IOC person with the right amount of money.

Edited January 20 by MHSN

[Olympian1010 7,977]

1 hour ago, MHSN said:

she went to Rio and even almost won a  medal for Belgium.

Outside of other factors you allege, I feel like that's what should happen in cases like this. The athlete won the right to go, so they should be allowed to compete for their host nation. Going from "stateless" to citizenship is different to me from a formal nationality switch.

[mpjmcevoy 362]

4 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

Outside of other factors you allege, I feel like that's what should happen in cases like this. The athlete won the right to go, so they should be allowed to compete for their host nation. Going from "stateless" to citizenship is different to me from a formal nationality switch.

And if the newly qualified refugee qualified in a weight in which his/her new nation already have a quota?

[Olympian1010 7,977]

2 hours ago, mpjmcevoy said:

And if the newly qualified refugee qualified in a weight in which his/her new nation already have a quota?

Well, now that’s a pickle isn’t? 

[Prakash_k 68]

Anyone have idea about boxing seeding at olympic?

Edited January 21 by Prakash_k

[Ogreman 355]

14 hours ago, Prakash_k said:

Anyone have idea about boxing seeding at olympic?

I spent a while going down a rabbit hole of trying to figure this out a couple of months ago and I think my conclusion was that they just haven't announced it either way yet although that may have since changed.

They haven't seeded any of the qualification tournaments so maybe they just don't although that would gaurantee some very strange medals. My guess is they probably do include seeds and just end up seeding the European/ Asian and American champions along with either the African or Oceanian champion but I don't really have anything to base that on.

[Ogreman 355]

Right, Updated top 30 in each event who are competing at the first world qualifying tournament. You can assume that their position relative to the already qualified boxers is unchanged (although there are a few I would change). Apologies for the weird order but startlists came out late so still updating as the competition starts in some weightclasses.

 

	W50kg (4)	W57kg (2)	W60kg (3)
1	Thi Tham Nguyen (VIE)	Nesthy Petecio (PHI)	Shona Whitwell (GBR)
2	Ingrit Valencia Victoria (COL)	Jennifer Fernandez (ESP)	Oh Yeonji (KOR)
3	Sabina Bobokulova (UZB)	Elise Glynn (GBR)	Rimma Volossenko (KAZ)
4	Daina Moorehouse (IRL)	Julia Szeremeta (POL)	Agnes Alexiusson (SWE)
5	Tetyana Kob (UKR)	Xu Zichun (CHN)	Donjeta Sadiku (KOS)
6	Alua Balkybekova (KAZ)	Vilma Viitanen (FIN)	Krisandy Rios (VEN)
7	Nataia Kuczewska (POL)	Maud Van der Toorn (NED)	Alessia Mesiano (ITA)
8	Rinka Kinoshita (JAP)	Bojan Gojkovic (MNE)	Elida Kocharyan (ARM)
9	Pihla Kaivo-oja (FIN)	Satsuki Yoshizawa (JAP)	Jaismine (IND)
10	Zlatislava Chukanova (BUL)	Esra Yildiz (TUR)	Miroslava Jedinakova (SVK)
11	Aira Villegas (PHI)	Anastasia Molochko (UKR)	Lenka Bernardova (CZE)
12	Aldana Florencia Lopez (ARG)	Marie Al-Ahmadieh (CAN)	Sara Beram (CRO)
13	Savannah Stubley (GBR)	Alyssa Mendoza (USA)	Ayaka Taguchi (JAP)
14	Nina Radovanovic (SRB)	Nikolina Cacic (CRO)	Camila Pineiro (URU)
15	Maxi Klotzer (GER)	Claudia Nechita (ROU)	Chelsey Heijnen (NED)
16	Anush Grigoryan (ARM)	Olga Papadatou (GRE)	Raykhona Kodirova (UZB)
17	Ingrid Gomez (MEX)	Sitora Turdibekova (UZB)	Anna Jenni (SWI)
18	Susan Aguas (ECU)	Preedakhmon Tintabhtai (THA)	Rizwa Pasuit (PHI)
19	Tayonis Cedeno (VEN)	Szabina Szucs (HUN)	Hanna Okhrei (UKR)
20	Jung Joo-Hyung (KOR)	Canan Tas (GER)	Sheila Martinez (ESP)
21	Sofie Vinther Rosshaug (DEN)	Mahsati Hamzayeva (AZE)	Kiria Tapia (PUR)
22	Mckenzie Wright (CAN)	Lucie Sedlackova (CZE)	Felicitas Ganglbauer (GER)
23	Guo Yi Xuan (TPE)	Legnis Cala (CUB)	Guadalupe Solis (MEX)
24	Antonia Giannakopoulou (GRE)	Ana Milisic (SWI)	Loredana Marin (ROU)
25	Rita Soares (POR)	Andjela Brankovic (SRB)	Patrycja Borys (POL)
26	Nicole Durikova (SVK)	Milagros Herrera (ARG)	Aslahan Mehmedova  (BUL)
27	Aylin Jamez (GUA)	Nisrine Amine (MOR)	Victoria Saputo (ARG)
28	Valeria Cardenas (CRC)	Leilany Reyes (GUA)	Laura Akram (PAK)
29	Yuliett Hinestroza (PAN)	Miguelina Hernandez (DOM)	Ana Starovoitova  (LTU)
30	Claudia Totova (CZE)	Jennifer Carillo (MEX)	Christina Linardatou (GRE)

Edited March 4 by Ogreman

[Ogreman 355]

	M51kg (4)	M71kg (4)	M92+kg (4)
1	Saken Bibbosinov (KAZ)	Yurii Zakharieiev (UKR)	Nelvie Tiafack (GER)
2	Roscoe Hill (USA)	Aslanbek Shymbergenov (KAZ)	Fernando Arzola (CUB)
3	Tomoya Tsuboi (JAP)	Asadkhuja Muydinkhujaev (UZB)	Ayoub Ghadfa (ESP)
4	Deepak Bhoria (IND)	Aidan Walsh (IRL)	Danabieke Bayikewuzi (CHN)
5	Martin Molina (ESP)	Omari Jones (USA)	Luka Pratljacic (CRO)
6	Yuberjen Martinez (COL) <	Nishant Dev (IND)	Davit Chaloyan (ARM)
7	Kiaran McDonald (GBR)	Zeyad Eashash (JOR)	Djamili Aboudou Moindze (FRA) >
8	Federico Serra (ITA)	Magomed Schachidov (GER)	Christian Salcedo (COL)
9	Roger Ladon (PHI)	Wanderson de Oliveira (BRA)	Yordan Hernandez (BUL)
10	Istvan Szaka (HUN)	Damian Durkacz (POL)	Danis Latypov (BHR)
11	Po Wei Tu (TPE)	Jorge Cuellar (CUB)	Diego Lenzi (ITA)
12	Alejandro Claro Fiz (CUB)	Lewis Richardson (GBR)	Omar Shiha (NOR)
13	Ari Bonilla (MEX)	Sarkhan Aliyev (AZE)	Dmytro Lovchynski (UKR) >
14	Dmytro Zamotayev (UKR)	Rami Kiwan (BUL)	Dusan Veletic (SRB)
15	Kim In-kyu (KOR)	Bayramdurdy Nurmuhammedov (TKM)	Ali Feliz (DOM)
16	Sakhil Alakhverdovi (GEO)	Vasile Cebotari (MDA)	Diarga Balde (SEN)
17	Jiamao Zhang (CHN)	Angel Llanos (PUR)	Narendar Berwal (IND)
18	Ramon Nicanor Quiroga (ARG)	Eskerkhan Madiev (GEO)	Gerlon Congo (ECU)
19	Nijat Huseynov (AZE)	Aliaksandr Radzionau (AIN)  (BLR)	Keddy Agnes (SEY)
20	Cosmin Girleanu (ROU)	Junior Petanqui (CAN)	Jonas Jazevicius (LTU)
21	Rudolf Garboyan (ARM)	Sergio Martinez (ESP)	Bakyt Toktosun Uulu (KGZ)
22	Omid Ahmadisafa (REF)	Bruno Fernandes de Barros (CPV)	Martin Mcdonagh (IRL)
23	Azat Makhmetov (BHR)	Rattapol Kadamduan (THA)	Alexis Barriere (CAN)
24	Sean Mari (IRL)	Merven Clair (MRI)	Stylianos Roulias (GRE)
25	Ala Eddine Zidi (TUN)	Syrgak Abdyzhapar Uulu (KGZ) <	Iman Ramezanpour (IRN)
26	Luis Delgado (ECU)	Miroslav Kapuler Ischenko (ISR)	Javier Cruz (MEX)
27	Juanma Lopez (PUR)	Alexander Rangel (COL) <	Mukhammad Abroridinov (TJK)
28	Nurzhigit Diushebaev (KGZ)	Juan Cedeno (VEN) <	Thomas Mboua (CMR)
29	Said Mortaji (MOR)	Nidal Foqahaa (PLE)	Yusuf Acik (TUR)
30	Omer Ametovic (SRB) >	Shokhobzhon Shukurov (TJK)	Mohamed Firisse (MOR)

Edited March 4 by Ogreman