Speed Skating ISU World Cup 2023 - 2024

[heywoodu 16,461]

What a super weird schedule by the way, the fuck is up with the 500m being followed by the 1000m  

[phelps 8,705]

I'm a bit disappointed by Pergher's time over the 500m, I expected her to be within 1 sec from the actual race winner, but she's at least 3-4/10 outside that

 

meanwhile, even if she slooks like to become a pure 500m specialist, I'm really disappointed with her 1.20 over the 1000m...she can do way better than that

 

good results instead for Bosa, waiting for Ghiotto to enlight our speedskating weekend

 

p.s. Jutta   

[heywoodu 16,461]

10 hours ago, phelps said:

I'm a bit disappointed by Pergher's time over the 500m, I expected her to be within 1 sec from the actual race winner, but she's at least 3-4/10 outside that

 

meanwhile, even if she slooks like to become a pure 500m specialist, I'm really disappointed with her 1.20 over the 1000m...she can do way better than that

 

good results instead for Bosa, waiting for Ghiotto to enlight our speedskating weekend

 

p.s. Jutta   

Good to finally see a Leerdam race without the cameras spending more time focusing on Jake freaking Paul  (like at the World Cup qualifiers two weeks ago)

[NearPup 4,180]

That atrocious mixed relay might be the single worse attempt at a mixed gendered team event I have ever seen at a senior top level event, and the bar is extremely low.

 

(The only thing worse I've ever seen is a mixed gendered / mixed weapon fencing team event, but it wasn't at this high a level of competition)

Edited November 13, 2023 by NearPup

[NearPup 4,180]

Generally there just should not be relay events in long track. The team pursuit (and team sprint, as much as people here dislike it :P ) works as a model for a team event in speed skating. A relay does not.

[heywoodu 16,461]

6 hours ago, NearPup said:

Generally there just should not be relay events in long track. The team pursuit (and team sprint, as much as people here dislike it :P ) works as a model for a team event in speed skating. A relay does not.

If we're in need of extra events, I'd much prefer the relay over the team sprint. That just adds nothing at all, it's basically just the team pursuit...but short.

[Olympian1010 8,299]

8 hours ago, NearPup said:

Generally there just should not be relay events in long track. The team pursuit (and team sprint, as much as people here dislike it :P ) works as a model for a team event in speed skating. A relay does not.

World Skate runs a relatively well-regarded relay event on the track. Of course, patinodromes are much closer in length to short track rinks than long track ovals. 
 

I’m not really sold on either the team pursuit or team sprint, but at least they’re different from other skating events on the Olympic program.

[NearPup 4,180]

9 hours ago, heywoodu said:

If we're in need of extra events, I'd much prefer the relay over the team sprint. That just adds nothing at all, it's basically just the team pursuit...but short.

I mean ya, it's just the team pursuit but for sprinters. I don't see anything wrong with the two events being very similar.

[NearPup 4,180]

7 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

World Skate runs a relatively well-regarded relay event on the track. Of course, patinodromes are much closer in length to short track rinks than long track ovals. 
 

I’m not really sold on either the team pursuit or team sprint, but at least they’re different from other skating events on the Olympic program.

Ya, the relay works great in short track (the short track relays are among my favourite Olympic events), but long track is both too high speed and has too long of a straightaway to make relay exchanges work well.

 

I'm not surprised inline relays work fine, given the smaller track and speeds more comparable to short track.

[Olympian1010 8,299]

3 hours ago, NearPup said:

Ya, the relay works great in short track (the short track relays are among my favourite Olympic events), but long track is both too high speed and has too long of a straightaway to make relay exchanges work well.

Maybe a format similar to the madison could work for long track? Skaters could either push or hand sling on exchanges over a longer distance points race.