Tokyo 2020 Day after Day as it could have happened

[rafalgorka 1,509]

15 minut temu, OlympicsFan napisał:

1) Ok ... so if Mali wins the next Africa Cup, you will predict that they reach the top 3 of the next world cup ... ?

All 4 european teams that qualified will 99 % field teams that will be clearly stronger than Egypt. Salah is a great player, but ...

a) One player like him isn't enough

b) Other nations could also nominate world-class players who are older than 23

 

2) How do you know the draw already?

3) France won't even make the semifinal despite having clearly the best talent pool of all teams?

4) I didn't say anything about womens canoeing sprint, because i don't follow women's canoeing sprint, so i have no idea who will be the medal contenders.

I made a kind of prediction of draw at the beginning of this thread ;-)

 

French football teams tend to implode in the tournaments, even if they look good on paper. RSA 2010, e.g.

 

Anyway, we will see.

[rafalgorka 1,509]

1 minutę temu, OlympicsFan napisał:

Sadly i think that Wild win at least medal in women's omnium.

Why sadly?

[OlympicsFan 858]

2 hours ago, rafalgorka said:

TOKYO 2020 MEDAL TABLE AFTER DAY 16 Sunday 339/339

 

1. UNITED STATES                47-39-27              113
2. CHINA                                  44-16-24              84
3. RUSSIA                                23-24-23              70
4. JAPAN                                 22-17-17              56
5. NETHERLANDS                 16-14-8                38
6. AUSTRALIA                        13-17-14              44
7. GREAT BRITAIN                13-15-22              50
8. GERMANY                          13-10-24              47
9. FRANCE                               12-9-13                 34
10. KOREA REPUBLIC             9-6-7                     22
11. NEW ZEALAND                 9-4-3                     16
12. HUNGARY                          8-6-3                     17
13. BRAZIL                                 7-3-9                     19
14. TURKEY                                6-2-7                     15
15. CUBA                                   6-2-4                     12
16. KENYA                                 5-4-3                     12
17. ITALY                                    4-17-14                 35
18. SPAIN                                  4-11-12                27
19. CANADA                             4-5-10                   19
20. UKRAINE                            4-4-11                   19
21. CHINESE TAIPEI                4-3-1                     8
22. POLAND                              3-8-11                   22
23. SWEDEN                             3-6-4                     13
24. JAMAICA                            3-6-3                     12
25. IRELAND                             3-2-2                     7
26. CZECH REPUBLIC             3-1-4                     8
27. UZBEKISTAN                     3-0-6                     9
28. GEORGIA                            3-0-2                     5
29. DENMARK                          2-6-2                     10
30. KOREA DPR                        2-5-0                     7
31. ETHIOPIA                            2-4-2                     8
32. SLOVENIA                          2-4-0                     6
33. SWITZERLAND                  2-3-2                     7
34. CROATIA                             2-2-4                     8
35. AZERBAIJAN                      2-2-3                     7
36. BELGIUM                            2-2-3                     7
37. NORWAY                            2-2-1                     5
38. PHILIPPINES                      2-2-0                     4
39. IRAN                                     2-1-5                     8
40. QATAR                                 2-0-1                     3
41. SLOVAKIA                          2-0-0                     2
42. INDIA                                   1-6-8                     15
43. SERBIA                                 1-5-5                     11
44. BELARUS                             1-5-3                     9
45. ROMANIA                          1-4-2                     7
46. GREECE                                               1-2-2                     5
47. INDONESIA                        1-2-0                     3
48. ARMENIA                           1-1-2                     4
49. ECUADOR                           1-1-1                     3
50. BAHAMAS                          1-1-0                     2
51. THAILAND                          1-1-0                     2
52. UGANDA                            1-1-0                     2
53. ISRAEL                                 1-0-4                     5
54. ESTONIA                             1-0-3                     4
55. MOROCCO                         1-0-2                     3
56. BAHRAIN                            1-0-1                     2
57. LITHUANIA                        1-0-1                     2
58. VENEZUELA                       1-0-1                     2
59. FIJI                                        1-0-0                     1
60. KYRGYZSTAN                    1-0-0                     1
61. KAZAKHSTAN                   0-4-7                     11
62. COLOMBIA                        0-2-5                     7
63. PORTUGAL                        0-2-5                     7
64. BULGARIA                          0-2-2                     4
65. ARGENTINA                      0-2-1                     3
66. MALAYSIA                          0-2-1                     3
67. CHILE                                    0-2-0                     2
68. AUSTRIA                             0-1-5                     6
69. HONG KONG                     0-1-3                     4
70. EGYPT                                  0-1-2                     3
71. NIGERIA                              0-1-2                     3
72. ALGERIA                             0-1-1                     2
73. CYPRUS                                               0-1-0                     1
74. FINLAND                             0-1-0                     1
75. GRENADA                          0-1-0                     1
76. PERU                                    0-1-0                     1
77. SAN MARINO                    0-1-0                     1
78. MEXICO                              0-0-5                     5
79. IVORY COAST                    0-0-3                     3
80. KOSOVO                             0-0-3                     3
81. SOUTH AFRICA                 0-0-3                     3
82. BANGLADESH                   0-0-1                     1
83. BOSNIA HERZEGOVINA 0-0-1                     1
84. DOMINICAN REP.            0-0-1                     1
85. MOLDOVA                         0-0-1                     1
86. MONGOLIA                       0-0-1                     1
87. NORTH MACEDONIA     0-0-1                     1
88. SYRIA                                   0-0-1                     1

 

I think the Netherlands and especially India would be super happy. India would probably declare a national holiday ...

Not so sure about France, Japan and GB though ...

For Germany it would be a decent result. On the one hand "we" should do much better in swimming and athletics than in 2016, on the other hand it would be a miracle if "we" could repeat our great performances in shooting and canoeing sprint. Germany hasn't won a swimming (gold) medal since 2008, so it would be great if Wellbrock could make it happen. Swimming, athletics and track cycling are the sports i care most about at the olympics, so i hope that Germany will do good there.

From a german perspective i also hope that ...

a) At least one german team (handball/hockey) will reach a final

b) At least one german athlete will fight for gold in the individual jumping event till the last round

c) At least one german athlete/team will fight for a medal in fencing

d) At least one german woman will reach the balance beam final

e) At least one german athlete/double will reach a tennis final

[OlympicsFan 858]

11 minutes ago, rafalgorka said:

I made a kind of prediction of draw at the beginning of this thread ;-)

 

French football teams tend to implode in the tournaments, even if they look good on paper. RSA 2010, e.g.

 

Anyway, we will see.

Or 2018 Russia ...

[OlympicsFan 858]

11 minutes ago, rafalgorka said:

Why sadly?

I am not a fan of her and dutch sports (espcially cycling) in general.

[rafalgorka 1,509]

16 minut temu, OlympicsFan napisał:

I think the Netherlands and especially India would be super happy. India would probably declare a national holiday ...

Not so sure about France, Japan and GB though ...

For Germany it would be a decent result. On the one hand "we" should do much better in swimming and athletics than in 2016, on the other hand it would be a miracle if "we" could repeat our great performances in shooting and canoeing sprint. Germany hasn't won a swimming (gold) medal since 2008, so it would be great if Wellbrock could make it happen. Swimming, athletics and track cycling are the sports i care most about at the olympics, so i hope that Germany will do good there.

From a german perspective i also hope that ...

a) At least one german team (handball/hockey) will reach a final

b) At least one german athlete will fight for gold in the individual jumping event till the last round

c) At least one german athlete/team will fight for a medal in fencing

d) At least one german woman will reach the balance beam final

e) At least one german athlete/double will reach a tennis final

Swimming and athletics - me, too.

 

I don't know much about track cycling. Never tried to watch it carefully yet. But I will try.

I watch road racing much more.

 

It was nice discussion with you through all these days - you are obviously an expert here.

Have a good weekend.

 

 

 

[hckošice 14,794]

19 hours ago, rafalgorka said:

19. CANOE SPRINT – Men Kayak Four 500m

1. GERMANY
2. SPAIN
3. PORTUGAL

 

I sincerely hope you´ll be wrong

[LDOG 2,418]

hace 6 horas, OlympicsFan dijo:

Great insight ... so the predictions we make 1 week before the games will matter how?

Of course a lot can happen, but you can say the same about any sport. What if the NBA will boycott the games? Would the US still be favorites for gold?

By that logic we shouldn't make any predictions before the games.

 

No, we can't say the same about every sport. In women's football we know perfectly well that all teams will take their best available players. Of course we can make a much better prediction for it compared to men's. Same with a lot of other sports.. volleyball, handball, rowing, canoeing, etc.

 

On the other hand there is sports like Men's football, men's basketball, baseball, tennis, golf, etc with more uncertainty of who will show up as a start. 

 

But you already know all this, I don't know why you found my statement controversial 

[Gianlu33 4,537]

4th August

 

Spoiler

Athletics - Women's Long Jump	Mihambo   Beck-Romanchuk   Reese
Athletics - Men's 400m Hurdles	Warlhom   Benjamin   Samba
Canoe Sprint - Women's K1 200m	Jorgensen   Carrington   Walczykiewicz
Canoe Sprint - Men's C2 1000m	China   Germany   Poland
Canoe Sprint - Men's K1 1000m	Kopasz   Pimenta   Dostal
Canoe Sprint - Women's K2 500m	Belarus   Hungary   New Zealand
Boxe - Women's -57kg	Voronstona   Pateicio   Yu Petrova
Sailing - Men's Finn	Junior   Scott   Berecz
Sailing - Mixed Nacra	Australia   Italy   Great Britain
Diving - Men's 3m Springboard	Cao   Xie   Laugher
Track Cycling - Men's Team Sprint	Great Britain   Netherland   France
Track Cycling - Women's Team Pursuit	United States   Great Britain   New Zealand
Artistic Gymnastics - Men's Uneven Bars	Zou   Vernaiaiev   Dalaloyan
Artistic Gymnastics - Women's Balance Beam	Biles   Liu   Lu
Artistic Gymnastics - Men's Horizontal Bar	Zonderland   Miyachi   Mariano
Boxe - Men's -69kg	Zamkovoc   McCormack   Ozakawa Baturov
Wrestling - Men's GR -77kg	Loroncz   Garaev   Chalyan Liack
Wrestling - Men's GR -97kg	Evloev   Ildem   Snyder Sharifov
Wrestling - Women's -68kg	Mensah   Cherkasova   Dosho Kakran
Athletics - Men's Pole Vault	Duplantis    Kendrick   Lavillenie
Athletics - Women's Hammer Throw	Wang   Fodorov   Price
Athletics - Women's 800m	Wilson   Nakaay   Rogers
Athletics - Women's 200m	Asher-Smith   Thompson   Miller Uibo
Weightlifting - Men's -109kg	Martirosoyan   :BLR Aramnau   :UZB Djuraev

 

 

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@Gianlu33 it will be the biggest surprise in the history of Olympic wrestling if Snyder and Sharifov win medals in Greco-Roman

 

I know it's impossible to have knowledge about all sports but taking a look at @rafalgorka predictions, at least in wrestling it's almost copy/paste of 2019 results. we had some surprise winners (specially bronze medalists) mostly because the draw was rigged (yes it was) to help Kazakhstani wrestlers, therefore some lucky wrestlers won some medals they couldn't even dream about. likes of Nurov, Deng and that Swiss guy only can win medal with a super easy draw like that.

 

this is my prediction for freestyle . but remember this is for August 2020, (if they wouldn't postpone the Games) , my prediction for 2021 is different. some youngsters will catch up with big names soon.

 

and I also didn't consider ranking and seedings, because for example Uguev and Ravi are currently 1st and 4th in WR, with no more ranking event left (the last one being cancelled), they were supposed to meet before the final.

 

57kg: 1) Uguev 2) Ravi 3) Atli and Higuchi

65kg: 1) Rashidov 2) Otoguro 3) Aliyev and Bajrang

74kg: 1) Burroughs 2) Sidakov 3) Chamizo and Kentchadze

86kg: 1) Yazdani 2) Taylor 3) Naifonov and Shabanov

97kg: 1) Sadulaev 2) Mohammadian 3) Snyder and Sharifov

125kg: 1) Petriashvili 2) Akgul 3) Zare and Khotsianivskyi

 

* I really had a hard time to pick a 4th guy for 86kg. I think there are something like 10 wrestlers more or less in the same level.