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Tokyo 2020 Day after Day as it could have happened

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15 minut temu, OlympicsFan napisał:

1) Ok ... so if Mali wins the next Africa Cup, you will predict that they reach the top 3 of the next world cup ... ?

All 4 european teams that qualified will 99 % field teams that will be clearly stronger than Egypt. Salah is a great player, but ...

a) One player like him isn't enough

b) Other nations could also nominate world-class players who are older than 23

 

2) How do you know the draw already?

3) France won't even make the semifinal despite having clearly the best talent pool of all teams?

4) I didn't say anything about womens canoeing sprint, because i don't follow women's canoeing sprint, so i have no idea who will be the medal contenders.

I made a kind of prediction of draw at the beginning of this thread ;-)

 

French football teams tend to implode in the tournaments, even if they look good on paper. RSA 2010, e.g.

 

Anyway, we will see.

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Friday Day 14   I would defenitely watch athletics - whole evening session is very interesting for me. W 1500 (with Sofia Ennaoui?), W Javelin (Maria Andrejczyk?) and 4x100 relays above all.

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Day #16...this is "The End" (cit.)    sadness and depression at their climax...to me, this is absolutely the worst moment of my "normal" life (except for the serious troubles, of course...we'

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TOKYO 2020 MEDAL TABLE AFTER DAY 16 Sunday 339/339

 

  1. UNITED STATES                47-39-27              113
  2. CHINA                                  44-16-24              84
  3. RUSSIA                                23-24-23              70
  4. JAPAN                                 22-17-17              56
  5. NETHERLANDS                 16-14-8                38
  6. AUSTRALIA                        13-17-14              44
  7. GREAT BRITAIN                13-15-22              50
  8. GERMANY                          13-10-24              47
  9. FRANCE                               12-9-13                 34
  10. KOREA REPUBLIC             9-6-7                     22
  11. NEW ZEALAND                 9-4-3                     16
  12. HUNGARY                          8-6-3                     17
  13. BRAZIL                                 7-3-9                     19
  14. TURKEY                                6-2-7                     15
  15. CUBA                                   6-2-4                     12
  16. KENYA                                 5-4-3                     12
  17. ITALY                                    4-17-14                 35
  18. SPAIN                                  4-11-12                27
  19. CANADA                             4-5-10                   19
  20. UKRAINE                            4-4-11                   19
  21. CHINESE TAIPEI                4-3-1                     8
  22. POLAND                              3-8-11                   22
  23. SWEDEN                             3-6-4                     13
  24. JAMAICA                            3-6-3                     12
  25. IRELAND                             3-2-2                     7
  26. CZECH REPUBLIC             3-1-4                     8
  27. UZBEKISTAN                     3-0-6                     9
  28. GEORGIA                            3-0-2                     5
  29. DENMARK                          2-6-2                     10
  30. KOREA DPR                        2-5-0                     7
  31. ETHIOPIA                            2-4-2                     8
  32. SLOVENIA                          2-4-0                     6
  33. SWITZERLAND                  2-3-2                     7
  34. CROATIA                             2-2-4                     8
  35. AZERBAIJAN                      2-2-3                     7
  36. BELGIUM                            2-2-3                     7
  37. NORWAY                            2-2-1                     5
  38. PHILIPPINES                      2-2-0                     4
  39. IRAN                                     2-1-5                     8
  40. QATAR                                 2-0-1                     3
  41. SLOVAKIA                          2-0-0                     2
  42. INDIA                                   1-6-8                     15
  43. SERBIA                                 1-5-5                     11
  44. BELARUS                             1-5-3                     9
  45. ROMANIA                          1-4-2                     7
  46. GREECE                                               1-2-2                     5
  47. INDONESIA                        1-2-0                     3
  48. ARMENIA                           1-1-2                     4
  49. ECUADOR                           1-1-1                     3
  50. BAHAMAS                          1-1-0                     2
  51. THAILAND                          1-1-0                     2
  52. UGANDA                            1-1-0                     2
  53. ISRAEL                                 1-0-4                     5
  54. ESTONIA                             1-0-3                     4
  55. MOROCCO                         1-0-2                     3
  56. BAHRAIN                            1-0-1                     2
  57. LITHUANIA                        1-0-1                     2
  58. VENEZUELA                       1-0-1                     2
  59. FIJI                                        1-0-0                     1
  60. KYRGYZSTAN                    1-0-0                     1
  61. KAZAKHSTAN                   0-4-7                     11
  62. COLOMBIA                        0-2-5                     7
  63. PORTUGAL                        0-2-5                     7
  64. BULGARIA                          0-2-2                     4
  65. ARGENTINA                      0-2-1                     3
  66. MALAYSIA                          0-2-1                     3
  67. CHILE                                    0-2-0                     2
  68. AUSTRIA                             0-1-5                     6
  69. HONG KONG                     0-1-3                     4
  70. EGYPT                                  0-1-2                     3
  71. NIGERIA                              0-1-2                     3
  72. ALGERIA                             0-1-1                     2
  73. CYPRUS                                               0-1-0                     1
  74. FINLAND                             0-1-0                     1
  75. GRENADA                          0-1-0                     1
  76. PERU                                    0-1-0                     1
  77. SAN MARINO                    0-1-0                     1
  78. MEXICO                              0-0-5                     5
  79. IVORY COAST                    0-0-3                     3
  80. KOSOVO                             0-0-3                     3
  81. SOUTH AFRICA                 0-0-3                     3
  82. BANGLADESH                   0-0-1                     1
  83. BOSNIA HERZEGOVINA 0-0-1                     1
  84. DOMINICAN REP.            0-0-1                     1
  85. MOLDOVA                         0-0-1                     1
  86. MONGOLIA                       0-0-1                     1
  87. NORTH MACEDONIA     0-0-1                     1
  88. SYRIA                                   0-0-1                     1

 

I think the Netherlands and especially India would be super happy. India would probably declare a national holiday ...

Not so sure about France, Japan and GB though ...

For Germany it would be a decent result. On the one hand "we" should do much better in swimming and athletics than in 2016, on the other hand it would be a miracle if "we" could repeat our great performances in shooting and canoeing sprint. Germany hasn't won a swimming (gold) medal since 2008, so it would be great if Wellbrock could make it happen. Swimming, athletics and track cycling are the sports i care most about at the olympics, so i hope that Germany will do good there.

From a german perspective i also hope that ...

a) At least one german team (handball/hockey) will reach a final

b) At least one german athlete will fight for gold in the individual jumping event till the last round

c) At least one german athlete/team will fight for a medal in fencing

d) At least one german woman will reach the balance beam final

e) At least one german athlete/double will reach a tennis final

Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached.
 

 

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I made a kind of prediction of draw at the beginning of this thread ;-)

 

French football teams tend to implode in the tournaments, even if they look good on paper. RSA 2010, e.g.

 

Anyway, we will see.

Or 2018 Russia ...

Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached.
 

 

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Why sadly?

I am not a fan of her and dutch sports (espcially cycling) in general.

Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached.
 

 

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16 minut temu, OlympicsFan napisał:

I think the Netherlands and especially India would be super happy. India would probably declare a national holiday ...

Not so sure about France, Japan and GB though ...

For Germany it would be a decent result. On the one hand "we" should do much better in swimming and athletics than in 2016, on the other hand it would be a miracle if "we" could repeat our great performances in shooting and canoeing sprint. Germany hasn't won a swimming (gold) medal since 2008, so it would be great if Wellbrock could make it happen. Swimming, athletics and track cycling are the sports i care most about at the olympics, so i hope that Germany will do good there.

From a german perspective i also hope that ...

a) At least one german team (handball/hockey) will reach a final

b) At least one german athlete will fight for gold in the individual jumping event till the last round

c) At least one german athlete/team will fight for a medal in fencing

d) At least one german woman will reach the balance beam final

e) At least one german athlete/double will reach a tennis final

Swimming and athletics - me, too.

 

I don't know much about track cycling. Never tried to watch it carefully yet. But I will try.

I watch road racing much more.

 

It was nice discussion with you through all these days - you are obviously an expert here.

Have a good weekend.

 

 

 

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  1. CANOE SPRINT – Men Kayak Four 500m
  1. GERMANY
  2. SPAIN
  3. PORTUGAL

 

I sincerely hope you´ll be wrong :lol:

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hace 6 horas, OlympicsFan dijo:

Great insight ... so the predictions we make 1 week before the games will matter how?

Of course a lot can happen, but you can say the same about any sport. What if the NBA will boycott the games? Would the US still be favorites for gold?

By that logic we shouldn't make any predictions before the games.

 

No, we can't say the same about every sport. In women's football we know perfectly well that all teams will take their best available players. Of course we can make a much better prediction for it compared to men's. Same with a lot of other sports.. volleyball, handball, rowing, canoeing, etc.

 

On the other hand there is sports like Men's football, men's basketball, baseball, tennis, golf, etc with more uncertainty of who will show up as a start. 

 

But you already know all this, I don't know why you found my statement controversial :dunno:

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4th August

 

Spoiler
Athletics - Women's Long Jump

:GER Mihambo

 

:UKR Beck-Romanchuk

 

:USA Reese

 

Athletics - Men's 400m Hurdles

:NOR Warlhom

 

:USA Benjamin

 

:QAT Samba

 

Canoe Sprint - Women's K1 200m

:DEN Jorgensen

 

:NZL Carrington

 

:POLWalczykiewicz

 

Canoe Sprint - Men's C2 1000m

:CHN China

 

:GER Germany

 

:POL Poland

 

Canoe Sprint - Men's K1 1000m

:HUN Kopasz

 

:POR Pimenta

 

:CZE Dostal

 

Canoe Sprint - Women's K2 500m

:BLR Belarus

 

:HUN Hungary

 

:NZL New Zealand

 

Boxe - Women's -57kg

:RUS Voronstona

 

:PHI Pateicio

 

:CHN Yu

:BUL Petrova

 

Sailing - Men's Finn

:NZL Junior

 

:GBR Scott

 

:HUN Berecz

 

Sailing - Mixed Nacra

:AUS Australia

 

:ITA Italy

 

:GBR Great Britain

 

Diving - Men's 3m Springboard

:CHN Cao

 

:CHN Xie

 

:GBR Laugher

 

Track Cycling - Men's Team Sprint

:GBR Great Britain

 

:NED Netherland

 

:FRA France

 

Track Cycling - Women's Team Pursuit

:USA United States

 

:GBR Great Britain

 

:NZL New Zealand

 

Artistic Gymnastics - Men's Uneven Bars

:CHN Zou

 

:UKR Vernaiaiev

 

:RUS Dalaloyan

 

Artistic Gymnastics - Women's Balance Beam

:USA Biles

 

:CHN Liu

 

:CHN Lu

 

Artistic Gymnastics - Men's Horizontal Bar

:NED Zonderland

 

:JPN Miyachi

 

:BRA Mariano

 

Boxe - Men's -69kg

:RUS Zamkovoc

 

:GBR McCormack

 

:JPN Ozakawa

:UZB Baturov

 

Wrestling - Men's GR -77kg

:HUN Loroncz

 

:IRI Garaev

 

:ARM Chalyan

:BLR Liack

 

Wrestling - Men's GR -97kg

:RUS Evloev

 

:TUR Ildem

 

:USA Snyder

:AZE Sharifov

 

Wrestling - Women's -68kg

:USA Mensah

 

:UKR Cherkasova

 

:JPN Dosho

:IND Kakran

 

Athletics - Men's Pole Vault

:SWE Duplantis

 

:USA Kendrick

 

:FRA Lavillenie

 

Athletics - Women's Hammer Throw

:CHN Wang

 

:POL Fodorov

 

:USA Price

 

Athletics - Women's 800m

:USA Wilson

 

:UGA Nakaay

 

:USA Rogers

 

Athletics - Women's 200m

:GBR Asher-Smith

 

:JAM Thompson

 

:BAH Miller Uibo

 

Weightlifting - Men's -109kg

:ARM Martirosoyan

 

:BLR Aramnau

 

:UZB Djuraev

 

 

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@Gianlu33 it will be the biggest surprise in the history of Olympic wrestling if Snyder and Sharifov win medals in Greco-Roman :d

 

I know it's impossible to have knowledge about all sports but taking a look at @rafalgorka predictions, at least in wrestling it's almost copy/paste of 2019 results. we had some surprise winners (specially bronze medalists) mostly because the draw was rigged (yes it was) to help Kazakhstani wrestlers, therefore some lucky wrestlers won some medals they couldn't even dream about. likes of Nurov, Deng and that Swiss guy only can win medal with a super easy draw like that.

 

this is my prediction for freestyle . but remember this is for August 2020, (if they wouldn't postpone the Games) , my prediction for 2021 is different. some youngsters will catch up with big names soon.

 

and I also didn't consider ranking and seedings, because for example Uguev and Ravi are currently 1st and 4th in WR, with no more ranking event left (the last one being cancelled), they were supposed to meet before the final.

 

57kg: 1) :RUS Uguev 2) :IND Ravi 3) :TUR Atli and :JPN Higuchi

65kg: 1) :RUS Rashidov 2) :JPN Otoguro 3) :AZE Aliyev and :IND Bajrang

74kg: 1) :USA Burroughs 2) :RUS Sidakov 3) :ITA Chamizo and :GEO Kentchadze

86kg: 1) :IRI Yazdani 2) :USA Taylor 3) :RUS Naifonov and :BLR Shabanov

97kg: 1) :RUS Sadulaev 2) :IRI Mohammadian 3) :USA Snyder and :AZE Sharifov

125kg: 1) :GEO Petriashvili 2) :TUR Akgul 3) :IRI Zare and :UKR Khotsianivskyi

 

* I really had a hard time to pick a 4th guy for 86kg. I think there are something like 10 wrestlers more or less in the same level.

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      2026 LPGA Tour The Chevron Championship - Texas    Results (April 23-26, 2026)   Major Championship (100 points)   Women's: 1. Nelly Korda 2. Patty Tavatanakit 2. Yin Ruoning 4. Liu Yan   4. Yoon I-na   6. Kim Hyo-joo 7. Hannah Green   7. Lottie Woad   7. Ryann O'Toole   10. Angel Yin 10. Charley Hull   12. Jennifer Kupcho   12. Yealimi Noh   12. Rio Takeda   12. Ryu Hae-ran   12. Carlota Ciganda   12. Hwang You-min   12. Minami Katsu   12. Gaby Lopez   12. Lexi Thompson   21. Maja Stark   21. Miyu Yamashita   21. Celine Boutier   21. Im Jin-hee   21. Akie Iwai 21. Choi Hye-jin 27. Allisen Corpuz   27. Jasmine Suwannapura   27. Jenny Bae 27. Saki Baba 27. Pauline Roussin-Bouchard   27. Mary Liu   27. Chiara Tamburlini   34. Lee So-mi   34. Megan Khang   34. Nanna Koerstz Madsen   34. Cassie Porter   38. Yuri Yoshida   38. Shannon Tan   38. Sora Kamiya   38. Jing Yan   38. Erika Hara   38. Yang Yun-seo   38. Farah O'Keefe     Results
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      Women's Golf LPGA Tour 2026

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      2026 LPGA Tour JM Eagle LA Championship - California    Results (April 16-19, 2026)   (44.30 points)   Women's: 1. Hannah Green 2. Im Jin-hee   2. Kim Sei-young   4. Yoon I-na   5. Ryu Hae-ran   5. Patty Tavatanakit   7. Minami Katsu   7. Chizzy Iwai   9. Jing Yan   9. Melanie Green 11. Jenny Bae 11. Suvichaya Vinijchaitham 13. Allisen Corpuz   13. Jennifer Kupcho   13. Alison Lee   13. Akie Iwai   13. Asterisk Talley     Results
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      Men's Golf PGA Tour 2026

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      2026 PGA Tour Zurich Classic of New Orleans - Louisiana    Results (April 23-26, 2026)   Team Event   Men's: 1. Alex Fitzpatrick & Matt Fitzpatrick 2. Hayden Springer & Alex Smalley 2. Kris Ventura & Kristoffer Reitan 4. Jacob Skov Olesen & Rasmus Neergaard-Petersen 4. Trace Crowe & Ben Martin 6. Tom Hoge & Billy Horschel 6. Austin Eckroat & Davis Thompson   6. Hank Lebioda & Eric Cole   6. Jeffrey Kang & Doug Ghim   10. Mac Meissner & Matt McCarty   10. Andrew Novak & Ben Griffin   10. Seamus Power & Matti Schmid      *Provisional Standings to the FedEx Cup Playoffs (only top 20): 1. Matt Fitzpatrick  / 2.394p 2. Scottie Scheffler  / 2.031p 3. Collin Morikawa  / 1.719p 4. Cameron Young  / 1.671p 5. Jacob Bridgeman  / 1.495p 6. Chris Gotterup  / 1.299p 7. Akshay Bhatia  / 1.282p 8. Rory McIlroy  / 1.226p 9. Ludvig Aberg  / 1.143p 10. Kim Si-woo  / 1.074p 11. Xander Schauffele  / 1.034p 12. Lee Min Woo  / 952p 13. Jake Knapp  / 928p 14. Justin Rose  / 913p 15. Russell Henley  / 832p 16. Tommy Fleetwood  / 809p 17. Robert MacIntyre  / 796p 18. Hideki Matsuyama  / 789p 19. Sepp Straka  / 757p 20. Gary Woodland  / 752p   * The FedEx Cup Playoffs are a series of 3 final events of the season where the top 70 players with the most points during the year qualify to compete for the 2026 PGA Tour championship.   Results
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      Boxing Discussion | Qualification to Summer Olympic Games Los Angeles 2028

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      2026 World Boxing Cup #1/2 - Foz do Iguacu   Results (April 18-27, 2026)   Men's 55kg: 1. Zhang Jiamao   2. Rafael Lozano Serrano   3. Rui Yamaguchi   3. Yasen Rumenov Radev   5. Ali El Sari   5. Ellis Dudley Trowbridge   5. Jye Michael Kerr Dixon   5. Meroj Sufijonov     Men's 60kg: 1. Luiz Gabriel Nascimento Chalot de Oliveira   2. Salim Rafiq Ellis Bey   3. Keoma Ali Al-Ahmadieh   3. Lounes Hamraoui   5. Yuan Jiabao   5. Mehmethan Cinar   5. Shunsuke Kitamoto   5. Seiitbek Uulu Munaberk     Men's 65kg: 1. Yuri Falcao do Reis   2. Shion Nishiyama   3. Alexandru Paraschiv   3. Gabriel Aly Labrie   5. Connor Campbell   5. Dean Clancy   5. Hugo Grau   5. Oier Ibarreche Conde     Men's 70kg: 1. Damian Durkacz   2. Kaian Oliveira Reis   3. Makan Traore   3. Nabi Isgandarov   5. Arsen Chabyan   5. Farukh Tokhtassunov   5. Patrick Hewitt   5. Ricardo Cuello     Men's 80kg: 1. Wanderley de Souza Pereira   2. Gabrijel Veocic   3. Dias Molzhigitov   3. Joshua William Ofori   5. Du Haoran   5. Noel Pacheco   5. Toareed Oladimeji Shittu   5. Victor Nahuel Roldan     Men's 90kg: 1. Isaias Santos Ribeiro Filho   2. Enmanuel Reyes Pla   3. Dean Nwokedi Chime   3. Emrah Yasar   5. Andrei Zaplitnii   5. Lachlan John Lawson   5. Narek Manasyan   5. Teagn Dean Stott     Men's +90kg: 1. Mahammad Abdullayev   2. Davit Chaloyan   3. Jakhongir Zokirov   3. Omar Mohamed Shiha   5. Kelvin Watts   5. Luka Pratljacic   5. Mucahit Ilyas   5. Yordan Alain Hernandez Morejon     Women's 51kg: 1. Qi Xinyu   2. Romane Moulai   3. Noelle Haro   3. Alua Balkibekova   5. Esther Jimenez   5. Yasmine Mouttaki   5. Maxi Klotzer   5. Daina Moorehouse     Women's 54kg: 1. Gan Yunman   2. Sara Cirkovic   3. Lauren Mackie   3. Widad Bertal   5. Yoseline Perez   5. Wiktoria Beata Rogalinska   5. Scarlett Delgado   5. Jennifer Lehane     Women's 57kg: 1. Omailyn Alcala   2. Kukhta Vladislava   3. Shih Yi-wu   3. Delfina Arancibia   5. Riko Yamada   5. Guadalupe Torres   5. Alyssa Mendoza   5. Juci Cerqueira     Women's 60kg: 1. Viktoriya Grafeyeva   2. Rebeca Santos   3. Tian Yu   3. Aneta Elzbieta Rygielska   5. Krisandy Rios   5. Marie Al-Ahmadieh   5. Kristina Kuluhova   5. Donjeta Sadiku     Women's 65kg: 1. Navbakhor Khamidova   2. Aida Abikeyeva   3. Oshin Derieuw   3. Sacha Hickey   5. Douaa Zaki   5. Sara Beram   5. Marie Rosendo   5. Beatriz Gomes     Women's 70kg: 1. Yang Liu   2. Lekeisha Pergoliti   3. Barbara Marcinkowska   3. Isabella Winkler   5. Busenaz Surmeneli   5. Chantelle Reid   5. Leonie Muller   5. Citlalli Vanessa Ortiz     Women's 75kg: 1. Sunniva Hofstad   2. Barbara Santos   3. Busra Isildar   3. Emma Greentree   5. Maryelis Yriza   5. Zhu Yashu   5. Melissa Gemini   5. Agata Kaczmarska      Results   NEXT: World Boxing Cup #2 in Guiyang City  (June 15-21, 2026)
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