Women's Volleyball FIVB Olympic Qualification Tournaments 2023

[AsensioWillemsen 176]

Its also just a weird setup to have the teams in P15-20 needing to qualify top 2 with the top teams still around and then afterwards just look at ranking. There is basically zero pressure on the top teams anyway because they should Q via ranking if an upset happens.

 

If the upsets for teams in ranking 13-20 do not happen we could just have skipped this tourney apart from the effects on rankings which feels kinda.. dull.

Edited September 17, 2023 by AsensioWillemsen

[Noorderling29 238]

18 hours ago, heywoodu said:

Thing is, there's hardly a significant 'bouncing back' to a loss against any of the 'lesser' teams (no offense to Canada at all, with 'lesser' teams I mean every team that's not Serbia or China ), and when losing against one of them, you'd basically have to beat not one, but both of the two top teams. Had the Netherlands won this, the exact same could have said about Canada of course, the Netherlands too is definitely one of those 'lesser' teams you really can't afford to lose to.

Not necessarily, the one point against Canada could theoretically be decisive. If for instance China wins all its matches 3-0 or 3-1, and the Dutch team wins all matches beside the China one with the same numbers, the Dutch team would finish in front of Serbia by at least that one point, whatever the remaining Serbian results. Unlikely scenario, but mathematically possible.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Noorderling29

[CCB 625]

Conclusion: this qualifying system is crappy.

 

However, very happy with today's win against  . Hopefully  can add some ranking points in the remaining matches.

[Noorderling29 238]

For European teams, it’s better than it was. Under the old system, a team could be around 8th on the ranking, but have no chance of qualifying, because there were stronger European teams. Under the new system that regional block is removed, so the strongest teams will participate in Paris, while at the same time assuring all continents are represented.

[JoshMartini007 2,864]

I don't like that continental spots are decided by world rankings. It worked out for the women's, but for the men's Tunisia will end up representing Africa despite finishing 5th at the most recent African Championships. Unfortunately the lesser teams don't get enough exposure so their ranking positions don't change as quickly.

 

Field hockey has the correct format to ensure the top teams are represented. Continental qualifiers first then world qualifiers for the remaining teams.

[phelps 8,730]

37 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said:

I don't like that continental spots are decided by world rankings. It worked out for the women's, but for the men's Tunisia will end up representing Africa despite finishing 5th at the most recent African Championships. Unfortunately the lesser teams don't get enough exposure so their ranking positions don't change as quickly.

 

Field hockey has the correct format to ensure the top teams are represented. Continental qualifiers first then world qualifiers for the remaining teams.

next time Volleyball will have the Continental qualifiers first, too

 

and less places awarded via World Ranking, as the World Championship medallists will also qualify directly

[rybak 3,431]

We are losing set to

[Adriano 839]

And nice road to lost second.  I told everyone everywhere US and Italy easy win here with quota.

[Noorderling29 238]

A bit premature? Poland leading in the 3rd set, 1 - 1 in sets.

[Adriano 839]

Polish players play badly compared to the national league, many mistakes, ineffective attacks. The whole game depends on Stysiak... even with weaker players, we don't exist without her. Italy is a class better than our team even with this coach. We should do our best to save this good ranking