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22 September 2018, 08:30 CET 

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Japan whalers return from Antarctic hunt after killing 333 whales

 

and the world is so happy with this OG

[Gianlu33 4,552]

1 ora fa, bestmen ha scritto:

Japan whalers return from Antarctic hunt after killing 333 whales

 

and the world is so happy with this OG

But what is the different from a cow or a pig and a whale? This world is very hypocritical...

Edited March 31, 2018 by Gianlu33

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the difference is that you haven't a brain

[stefanbg 163]

13 minutes ago, Gianlu33 said:

But what is the different from a cow or a pig and a whale? This world is very hypocritical...

 

To me the difference is that you breed cows and pigs for food. You grow them in farms and you do not affect the bio diversity by feeding from them. On the contrary, whales are endangered spices and killing any of them causes shifts in the Earth flora and fauna, ecological holes are opened, which leads to consequences such as the ones described here:

 

http://whalingecosystems.weebly.com/ecosystem.html

 

Yet, not everyone looks at It that way and I am fine with it.

[Gianlu33 4,552]

2 minuti fa, stefanbg ha scritto:

 

To me the difference is that you breed cows and pigs for food. You grow them in farms and you do not affect the bio diversity by feeding from them. On the contrary, whales are endangered spices and killing any of them causes shifts in the Earth flora and fauna, ecological holes are opened, which leads to consequences such as the ones described here:

 

http://whalingecosystems.weebly.com/ecosystem.html

 

Yet, not everyone looks at It that way and I am fine with it.

About this, i completly agree whit us. But how many people think "oh, poor whale" and not about ecosystem? Too much

[Agger 1,662]

5 minutes ago, stefanbg said:

 

To me the difference is that you breed cows and pigs for food. You grow them in farms and you do not affect the bio diversity by feeding from them. On the contrary, whales are endangered spices and killing any of them causes shifts in the Earth flora and fauna, ecological holes are opened, which leads to consequences such as the ones described here:

 

http://whalingecosystems.weebly.com/ecosystem.html

 

Yet, not everyone looks at It that way and I am fine with it.

 

Though minke whales aren't really endangered (arctic are a bit uncertain, but estimates have been at about half a million some years ago). It is without doubt problematic, but it's not 333 a year that are gonna endanger the species.

[stefanbg 163]

7 minutes ago, Agger said:

 

Though minke whales aren't really endangered (arctic are a bit uncertain, but estimates have been at about half a million some years ago). It is without doubt problematic, but it's not 333 a year that are gonna endanger the species.

 

I did a quick search at:

http://discover.iucnredlist.org/discover

and it turns about several whale spieces residing in Asia are with status 'concern' or worse. This includes the dwarf minke whale, white whale, pot whale, pygmy blue whale, all porpoise whales etc. Not sure if all of these are Japanese but just the fact fishermen have to go as far as Antarctica, US and Australia to whale means there is not much left around the Japanese islands.

 

What hit me most is how the whaling business works in Japan:

http://www.icrwhale.org/eng-index.html

 

I hold no bad feelings for the Japanese. Actually, they are among the most environmentally caring countries. I realise it is a cultural thing with them and the whales.

 

[bestmen 2,817]

33 minutes ago, Agger said:

 

Though minke whales aren't really endangered (arctic are a bit uncertain, but estimates have been at about half a million some years ago). It is without doubt problematic, but it's not 333 a year that are gonna endanger the species.

 

33 minutes ago, Agger said:

 

Though minke whales aren't really endangered (arctic are a bit uncertain, but estimates have been at about half a million some years ago). It is without doubt problematic, but it's not 333 a year that are gonna endanger the species.

You say that cause you do the same in Fareo islands and the rest of scandinavia 

[Agger 1,662]

7 minutes ago, stefanbg said:

 

I did a quick search at:

http://discover.iucnredlist.org/discover

and it turns about several whale spieces residing in Asia are with status 'concern' or worse. This includes the dwarf minke whale, white whale, pot whale, pygmy blue whale, all porpoise whales etc. Not sure if all of these are Japanese but just the fact fishermen have to go as far as Antarctica, US and Australia to whale means there is not much left around the Japanese islands.

 

What hit me most is how the whaling business works in Japan:

http://www.icrwhale.org/eng-index.html

 

I hold no bad feelings for the Japanese. Actually, they are among the most environmentally caring countries. I realise it is a cultural thing with them and the whales.

 

 

The article states that it's just minke whales and though I haven't got time to do thorough research (paper due for tuesday) it seems like it's the common and arctic versions where the common is of "least concern" and the arctic is data deficient (though estimates are pretty high).

No doubt that there are whales that are endangered and should be cared for and the ones hunting these should be stopped by pretty much all cost, but it seems like this "scientific" whaling isn't of whales that are endangered (though once again, my head is filled by repatriations of POWs during WWII meaning that I haven't really checked it thoroughly)