[POLL] Do You want Boxing to be included in the Summer Olympic Games 2020 Programme?

[George_D 1,206]

  On 8/1/2018 at 8:35 PM, bestmen said:

because the western boxers had won most of medals 

so they shut their mouth 

 

 

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No the eastern boxers had won the most, cubans especially

[bestmen 2,831]

not in professional boxing 

 

[Jur 687]

No. Rio was a robery, half of the matches were fixed. And nothing is inproved since.

 

IMO Rio results should be cancelled and medals returned.

[George_D 1,206]

  On 8/1/2018 at 8:39 PM, bestmen said:

not in professional boxing 

 

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then we should return to the old good times and professional boxers not to be allowed to participate in Olympics

[George_D 1,206]

  On 8/1/2018 at 8:47 PM, Jur said:

No. Rio was a robery, half of the matches were fixed. And nothing is inproved since.

 

IMO Rio results should be cancelled and medals returned.

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artistic gymnastics also is fixed, look what is happening with US women team from 2004 and afterwards

Edited August 1, 2018 by George_D

[OlympicIRL 5,534]

I want boxing in it's current guise to be removed from the Olympic progamme.  It always had its issues but it has zero integrity these days so would rather the athlete quotas to be given to other sports.

[heywoodu 15,335]

  On 8/1/2018 at 3:39 PM, AlFHg said:

I voted yes. Although a lot of problems affected it, it is not correct to destroy history. 

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Having it out of one Olympics so that maybe the mess can finally get cleaned up is not destroying history. I voted no, because boxing needs to be very severely cleaned up and that's simply not going to happen when it stays in the Olympics, but I do want it to come back after major cleaning operations.

Edited August 1, 2018 by heywoodu

[Dragon 1,893]

  On 8/1/2018 at 4:08 PM, JoshMartini007 said:

Yes, but it needs fewer events. 10 was a lot considering what the other combat sports had. Even 8 for men is pushing it. They also need to bring back real-time scoring and give professionals the same qualifying rights as amateurs.

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Totally disagree on your first point. If anything, to be a fairer and safer tournament you need more weight divisions. Maybe 12-14 would be best (but not realistic) for each sex. 8 is the absolute minimum for safety reasons.

The difference is, unlike other combat sports, you're primarily using your bulk to generate power rather than speed.

You put a guy who naturally weighs 60kg against someone who weighs 48kg and, if you're lucky you get a quick and painful knockout.

If you're unlucky you get a sustained beating that seriously harms the loser's health.

 

Agree with the other points you make although pro boxing would have to be cleaned up a lot before they can let them fight at the Olympics.

 

For 2020 it would be unfair to rob boxers who have trained  for many years to throw the sport out of the Olympics - but all the people at the top of the AIBA have to go quickly.

2020 would be their final chance. Any problems and they are automatically banned from Paris and LA

Edited August 2, 2018 by Dragon

[thiago_simoes 1,425]

Nope. Screw this atrocity of a "sport".

[JoshMartini007 2,559]

  On 8/2/2018 at 1:44 AM, Dragon said:

Totally disagree on your first point. If anything, to be a fairer and safer tournament you need more weight divisions. Maybe 12-14 would be best (but not realistic) for each sex. 8 is the absolute minimum for safety reasons.

The difference is, unlike other combat sports, you're primarily using your bulk to generate power rather than speed.

You put a guy who naturally weighs 60kg against someone who weighs 48kg and, if you're lucky you get a quick and painful knockout.

If you're unlucky you get a sustained beating that seriously harms the loser's health.

 

Agree with the other points you make although pro boxing would have to be cleaned up a lot before they can let them fight at the Olympics.

 

For 2020 it would be unfair to rob boxers who have trained  for many years to throw the sport out of the Olympics - but all the people at the top of the AIBA have to go quickly.

2020 would be their final chance. Any problems and they are automatically banned from Paris and LA

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Except most boxers are near the maximum weight, you aren't typically going to see an 82kg boxer in the heavyweight. There's a three kg difference between the light flyweight and flyweight, that's having events for the sake of having events.