Swimming Qualification to Summer Olympic Games Paris 2024

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11 minutes ago, Topicmaster1010 said:

So I guess  Zhang Zhanshuo decided to focus on the 400 free instead of the 400 IM? That's unfortunate because I believe he would've had a better shot at making the final in the 400IM. It's also unfortunate because we lose another athlete who had the 400 IM OQT and now with just over 2 months to go in the qualification period, we have roughly 9 ENTRIES in the men's 400 IM:

 

 

NOC		ATHLETE 1 QUALIFICATION EVENT		RESULT	ATHLETE 2 QUALIFICATION EVENT	RESULT
Australia	1	SMITH Brendon World Aquatics Championships 2023		OQT 4:10.37
Canada	0	WIGGINTON Lorne World Aquatics Junior Swimming Championships 2023		OCT 4:12.81
France	1	MARCHAND Léon World Aquatics Championships 2023		OQT 4:02.50
Germany	1	BÜSSING Cedric Eindhoven Qualification Meet 2024		OQT 4:12.33
Great Britain	1	LITCHFIELD Max British National Championships 2024		OQT 4:09.14
Hungary	0	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 1 TBD		OCT X
Italy	1	RAZZETTI Alberto Italian Winter National Championships 2023		OQT 4:09.29
Japan	1	MATSUSHITA Tomoyuki Japan Selection Trial for Olympic Games 2024		OQT 4:10.04
New Zealand	1	CLAREBURT Lewis World Aquatics Championships 2024		OQT 4:09.72
South Africa	0	SATES Matt World Aquatics Swimming World Cup Athens 2023		OCT 4:13.38
United States	2	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 1 TBD		OQT X	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 2 TBD	OQT X

 

It's also quite possible that Brendon Smith wouldn't qualify at Australian trials given his form this year. Japan might add one of Seto or Honda as their 2nd entry and Wigginton, Gabor Zombori, and Sates could be added through OCTs. However, it's quite likely that we'll have even fewer entries than the women's 200m butterfly from Tokyo where their were only 17 entries.

 

This event had the misfortune of having an insanely fast heats in Tokyo that nuked the qualifying time from 4:15.84 to 4:12.50. If AQUA followed their old rules where they set the OQT as the 16th fastest swimmer in the heats instead of the 14th fastest swimmer, the new qualifying time would've been 4:15.76 instead.

I wonder how far it will be till the event is under consideration for the axe.

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Topicmaster1010 said:

So I guess  Zhang Zhanshuo decided to focus on the 400 free instead of the 400 IM? That's unfortunate because I believe he would've had a better shot at making the final in the 400IM. It's also unfortunate because we lose another athlete who had the 400 IM OQT and now with just over 2 months to go in the qualification period, we have roughly 9 ENTRIES in the men's 400 IM:

 

 

NOC		ATHLETE 1 QUALIFICATION EVENT		RESULT	ATHLETE 2 QUALIFICATION EVENT	RESULT
Australia	1	SMITH Brendon World Aquatics Championships 2023		OQT 4:10.37
Canada	0	WIGGINTON Lorne World Aquatics Junior Swimming Championships 2023		OCT 4:12.81
France	1	MARCHAND Léon World Aquatics Championships 2023		OQT 4:02.50
Germany	1	BÜSSING Cedric Eindhoven Qualification Meet 2024		OQT 4:12.33
Great Britain	1	LITCHFIELD Max British National Championships 2024		OQT 4:09.14
Hungary	0	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 1 TBD		OCT X
Italy	1	RAZZETTI Alberto Italian Winter National Championships 2023		OQT 4:09.29
Japan	1	MATSUSHITA Tomoyuki Japan Selection Trial for Olympic Games 2024		OQT 4:10.04
New Zealand	1	CLAREBURT Lewis World Aquatics Championships 2024		OQT 4:09.72
South Africa	0	SATES Matt World Aquatics Swimming World Cup Athens 2023		OCT 4:13.38
United States	2	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 1 TBD		OQT X	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 2 TBD	OQT X

 

It's also quite possible that Brendon Smith wouldn't qualify at Australian trials given his form this year. Japan might add one of Seto or Honda as their 2nd entry and Wigginton, Gabor Zombori, and Sates could be added through OCTs. However, it's quite likely that we'll have even fewer entries than the women's 200m butterfly from Tokyo where their were only 17 entries.

 

This event had the misfortune of having an insanely fast heats in Tokyo that nuked the qualifying time from 4:15.84 to 4:12.50. If AQUA followed their old rules where they set the OQT as the 16th fastest swimmer in the heats instead of the 14th fastest swimmer, the new qualifying time would've been 4:15.76 instead.

It also probably doesn't help that it has the most odds on favourite in the entire swimming pool in it this year!

 

The women's 200m fly is at danger again to break its own record, mind. By my rough calculations there's only 16 people who have hit either the OQT or the OCT, once you adjust for 2 per nation.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Topicmaster1010 said:

So I guess  Zhang Zhanshuo decided to focus on the 400 free instead of the 400 IM? That's unfortunate because I believe he would've had a better shot at making the final in the 400IM. It's also unfortunate because we lose another athlete who had the 400 IM OQT and now with just over 2 months to go in the qualification period, we have roughly 9 ENTRIES in the men's 400 IM:

 

 

NOC		ATHLETE 1 QUALIFICATION EVENT		RESULT	ATHLETE 2 QUALIFICATION EVENT	RESULT
Australia	1	SMITH Brendon World Aquatics Championships 2023		OQT 4:10.37
Canada	0	WIGGINTON Lorne World Aquatics Junior Swimming Championships 2023		OCT 4:12.81
France	1	MARCHAND Léon World Aquatics Championships 2023		OQT 4:02.50
Germany	1	BÜSSING Cedric Eindhoven Qualification Meet 2024		OQT 4:12.33
Great Britain	1	LITCHFIELD Max British National Championships 2024		OQT 4:09.14
Hungary	0	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 1 TBD		OCT X
Italy	1	RAZZETTI Alberto Italian Winter National Championships 2023		OQT 4:09.29
Japan	1	MATSUSHITA Tomoyuki Japan Selection Trial for Olympic Games 2024		OQT 4:10.04
New Zealand	1	CLAREBURT Lewis World Aquatics Championships 2024		OQT 4:09.72
South Africa	0	SATES Matt World Aquatics Swimming World Cup Athens 2023		OCT 4:13.38
United States	2	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 1 TBD		OQT X	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 2 TBD	OQT X

 

It's also quite possible that Brendon Smith wouldn't qualify at Australian trials given his form this year. Japan might add one of Seto or Honda as their 2nd entry and Wigginton, Gabor Zombori, and Sates could be added through OCTs. However, it's quite likely that we'll have even fewer entries than the women's 200m butterfly from Tokyo where their were only 17 entries.

 

This event had the misfortune of having an insanely fast heats in Tokyo that nuked the qualifying time from 4:15.84 to 4:12.50. If AQUA followed their old rules where they set the OQT as the 16th fastest swimmer in the heats instead of the 14th fastest swimmer, the new qualifying time would've been 4:15.76 instead.

Zhang Zhanshuo is still possible to swim 400IM on Olympics as he qualifies in 400 free and is the only person meeting standard on 400IM. If he will swim or not is depending on his own willingness

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8 hours ago, Topicmaster1010 said:

So I guess  Zhang Zhanshuo decided to focus on the 400 free instead of the 400 IM? That's unfortunate because I believe he would've had a better shot at making the final in the 400IM. It's also unfortunate because we lose another athlete who had the 400 IM OQT and now with just over 2 months to go in the qualification period, we have roughly 9 ENTRIES in the men's 400 IM:

 

 

NOC		ATHLETE 1 QUALIFICATION EVENT		RESULT	ATHLETE 2 QUALIFICATION EVENT	RESULT
Australia	1	SMITH Brendon World Aquatics Championships 2023		OQT 4:10.37
Canada	0	WIGGINTON Lorne World Aquatics Junior Swimming Championships 2023		OCT 4:12.81
France	1	MARCHAND Léon World Aquatics Championships 2023		OQT 4:02.50
Germany	1	BÜSSING Cedric Eindhoven Qualification Meet 2024		OQT 4:12.33
Great Britain	1	LITCHFIELD Max British National Championships 2024		OQT 4:09.14
Hungary	0	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 1 TBD		OCT X
Italy	1	RAZZETTI Alberto Italian Winter National Championships 2023		OQT 4:09.29
Japan	1	MATSUSHITA Tomoyuki Japan Selection Trial for Olympic Games 2024		OQT 4:10.04
New Zealand	1	CLAREBURT Lewis World Aquatics Championships 2024		OQT 4:09.72
South Africa	0	SATES Matt World Aquatics Swimming World Cup Athens 2023		OCT 4:13.38
United States	2	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 1 TBD		OQT X	Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 2 TBD	OQT X

 

It's also quite possible that Brendon Smith wouldn't qualify at Australian trials given his form this year. Japan might add one of Seto or Honda as their 2nd entry and Wigginton, Gabor Zombori, and Sates could be added through OCTs. However, it's quite likely that we'll have even fewer entries than the women's 200m butterfly from Tokyo where their were only 17 entries.

 

This event had the misfortune of having an insanely fast heats in Tokyo that nuked the qualifying time from 4:15.84 to 4:12.50. If AQUA followed their old rules where they set the OQT as the 16th fastest swimmer in the heats instead of the 14th fastest swimmer, the new qualifying time would've been 4:15.76 instead.

it's also the "Marchand effect"

when you know that you start 7/8 secs behind the eventual winner, you immediately try another option

most races of this kind tend to decrease the average 1st tier participants (and would have more 2nd/3rd tier swimmers, if only the OQT wasn't that insane)

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30 minutes ago, phelps said:

it's also the "Marchand effect"

when you know that you start 7/8 secs behind the eventual winner, you immediately try another option

most races of this kind tend to decrease the average 1st tier participants (and would have more 2nd/3rd tier swimmers, if only the OQT wasn't that insane)

I guess, but behind Marchand the depth is weak and really any of the qualifiers could medal, whereas in the 400m free is insanely strong and there are relatively few athletes who could medal.

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200m backstroke

 

 Lukas Märtens 1:56,18

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Chinese Nationals, Day #3

 

men's 200m Freestyle

1.Pan Zhanle, 1.45.68
2.Ji Xinjie, 1.45.86
3.Zhang Zhanshuo, 1.46.28
4.Fei Liwei, 1.46.88
5.Liu Wudi, 1.47.01
6.Niu Guangsheng, 1.47.14

women's 400m IM

1.Yu Yiting, 4.39.60
2.Yu Zidi, 4.40.97

women's 200m Freestyle

1.Yang Junxuan, 1.54.37
2.Li Bingjie, 1.56.29
3.Liu Yaxin, 1.56.56
4.Tang Muhan, 1.56.85
=5.Ge Chutong, 1.57.04
=5.Kong Yaqi, 1.57.04

women's 100m Breastroke

1.Tang Qianting, 1.04.39 (Continental Record)
2.Yang Chang. 1.06.39

men's 100m Backstroke

1.Xu Jiayu, 52.39
2.Wang Shun, 53.78

women's 100m Backstroke Semis

Wang Xueer, 59.45
Peng Xuwei, 59.60
Wan Lotte, 59.77

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Tang's 1:04.39 now makes China a strong gold medal contender in the women's medley relay.

[Josh 11,497]

31 minutes ago, dullard said:

Tang's 1:04.39 now makes China a strong gold medal contender in the women's medley relay.

Their backstroke leg still has some work to do before they’ll be in contention for gold…

Edited April 21, 2024 by Josh