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    Dragon reacted to Dolby in Summer Olympic Games Los Angeles 2028 Sports Programme   
    As someone, who thinks ICC rankings are useless, I would be happy if they are not a criteria for qualification but I think they will have atleast 1 quota via rankings to ensure that the top 3 (India, England and Australia) don't miss out. 
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    Dragon got a reaction from mpjmcevoy in Summer Olympic Games Los Angeles 2028 Sports Programme   
    Also this from a journalist friend who asked the IOC about whether the mixed tennis event would be mixed doubles or a mixed team event.
    Simple answer - they don't know yet. The ITF are still to decide
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    Dragon got a reaction from Gianlu33 in Summer Olympic Games Los Angeles 2028 Sports Programme   
    To point out a mistake in the document.
    They say Artistic Swimming is back to being a women only sport. That is not true, men are still allowed to compete
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    Dragon got a reaction from Wumo in Summer Olympic Games Los Angeles 2028 Sports Programme   
    This is going a very tricky decision for the ICC.
    You can't really use the current world rankings because ranking points will be won or lost against teams that are not eligible for the Olympics.
    I think that any country who fails to qualify because will launch an appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport and probably win.
     
    So here's what I suggest for the six.
     
    1 Possible host country place - USA - but only possible - what you do is recalculate the ICC rankings and take out all points gained against non-Olympic teams.
    Then once you done this and taken out non-Olympic countries like West Indies and either England and Scotland then if the USA are in a high enough ranking position they qualify. This position could be as high as 10th or as low as 20th depending on how important the IOC and ICC see their presence in LA.
    (I'm assuming that, like in curling and women's soccer Great Britain would nominate either England or Scotland as their official qualifying representatives)
    USA are currently 18th
     
    2 2026 World T20 champions
     
    3 and 4 Asia-Pacific qualifying tournament winners and runners-up
     
    5 and 6 Euro-Africa-Americas qualifying tournament winners and runners-up
     
    (7) If the USA don't meet the qualifying standard then a play off between the 3rd place teams in the 2 above categories decides the final qualifiers
     
    The qualifying tournament would be held under IOC eligibility rules not the ICC rules
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    Dragon got a reaction from Roamingrover86 in Summer Olympic Games Los Angeles 2028 Sports Programme   
    This is going a very tricky decision for the ICC.
    You can't really use the current world rankings because ranking points will be won or lost against teams that are not eligible for the Olympics.
    I think that any country who fails to qualify because will launch an appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport and probably win.
     
    So here's what I suggest for the six.
     
    1 Possible host country place - USA - but only possible - what you do is recalculate the ICC rankings and take out all points gained against non-Olympic teams.
    Then once you done this and taken out non-Olympic countries like West Indies and either England and Scotland then if the USA are in a high enough ranking position they qualify. This position could be as high as 10th or as low as 20th depending on how important the IOC and ICC see their presence in LA.
    (I'm assuming that, like in curling and women's soccer Great Britain would nominate either England or Scotland as their official qualifying representatives)
    USA are currently 18th
     
    2 2026 World T20 champions
     
    3 and 4 Asia-Pacific qualifying tournament winners and runners-up
     
    5 and 6 Euro-Africa-Americas qualifying tournament winners and runners-up
     
    (7) If the USA don't meet the qualifying standard then a play off between the 3rd place teams in the 2 above categories decides the final qualifiers
     
    The qualifying tournament would be held under IOC eligibility rules not the ICC rules
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    Dragon got a reaction from dobar_73 in Judo IJF World Tour 2025   
    Football and boxing is quite popular though
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    Dragon got a reaction from Grassmarket in Bobsleigh Discussion | Qualification to Winter Olympic Games Milano Cortina 2026   
    Only the world championship results. World Cup should be safe because the positive happened at the start of this month.
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    Dragon got a reaction from Pasolini in IOC President Election 2025   
    Yes, she's had a poor campaign
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    Dragon got a reaction from Illya in Athletes Deaths Thread   
    French athlete Yvonne Curtet-Chabot has died.
    She was 104 and the oldest Olympian.
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    Dragon got a reaction from heywoodu in Olympics Super fans Wanted!   
    I might be banned because I write some of those Olympic facts myself... 
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    Dragon got a reaction from Biathlonfan in Athletics EAA Indoor European Championships 2025   
    Probably the best  born  athlete of  heritage ever to win gold for  
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    Dragon got a reaction from Biathlonfan in International Olympic Committee News   
    I'm sorry, I know this is very silly but I'm having too much fun with ChatGPT drawing these for me...
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    Dragon got a reaction from Biathlonfan in International Olympic Committee News   
    Meanwhile at the Vatican Ski Cross championships we see the Bishop of Monza seconds before being wiped out in a crash with the Bishop of Frankfurt...

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    Dragon got a reaction from mrv86 in Athletes Deaths Thread   
    French athlete Yvonne Curtet-Chabot has died.
    She was 104 and the oldest Olympian.
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    Dragon got a reaction from Surlympics in Athletics   
    Evan's a fantastic athlete but an even better person
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    Dragon reacted to intoronto in Men's Ice Hockey NHL 4 Nations Face-Off 2025   
    With the ridiculous rhetoric from the moron leading the USA, this win is just delicious.
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    Dragon got a reaction from Makedonas in Athletes Deaths Thread   
    The oldest male Olympian and survivor of the Buchenwald concentration camp, French rower and resistance fighter Roger LeBranchu died today at the age of 102
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    Dragon got a reaction from Biathlonfan in Doping Cases and Bans in 2025   
    Billy Joel song "Only the Good Die Young" includes the lines;
    "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints"
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    Dragon got a reaction from heywoodu in Doping Cases and Bans in 2025   
    Billy Joel song "Only the Good Die Young" includes the lines;
    "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints"
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    Dragon got a reaction from phelps in Alpine Skiing FIS World Championships 2025   
    I think I found an answer on a skiing forum
     
    "This (obviously) isn't a technological question, it's a philosophical question. Anybody with the skills necessary to time a ski race to 0.01 would most certainly be capable of timing one to 0.001 or 0.0001, if the greater resolution was what the rules called for.

    "Here's the reason.

    "The FIS Timing Working Group has been trying to get rid of mechanical start gates since the 80's. They maintain until that happens, the random mechanical slop inherent in mechanical switches and the random flex inherent in start wands makes timing to .001 simply a random draw. And they've proved it. Repeatedly.

    "The FIS TWG made their decision based on data collected by my technical group at FIS World Cup and the World Alpine Chmps in the 90's (as TAG Heuer) and then revisited based on data we collected in the 00's (as Rolex). We installed several sets of cells downhill of the start gate (on the start ramp) at 1m intervals and collected data for both men and women across all the disciplines. Analysis of the data clearly showed that mechanical start gates are, to a relevant resolution, random number generators.

    "This is a question much like the one brought up at the summer Olympics in Munich in 1972. A few months before the Olympics, FINA announced they'd obtained the technology to time swimming to .001, and would start at The Games. FINA were subsequently contacted by the engineering firm who'd designed and supervised construction of the pool in Germany. Representatives from the firm sent FINA a mathematical proof showing that at speeds typical for Olympic swimmers, the pool wasn't built to sufficient tolerances to where all lanes were of equal length to a degree where .001 would be fair. And notice...to this day...swimming also still publishes results only to 0.01. FINA have shelved the idea of 0.001 for over 40 years because no mechanical engineer will certify a pool with walls and touchpad mounts so precisely built that 0.001 would be consistent and fair across all lanes.

    "Think about it from an engineering standpoint.....let's say you had a time base accurate to 0.0000001 and photocells only accurate to 1.0 seconds. Sure, you could publish results to 0.000001, but anything beyond a full second would be random and therefore useless.

    "Mechanical start gates are an anachronism, but the TWG has to date been unable to get rid of them. It's a tradition FIS hasn't been willing to part with. Until that happens, publishing results to resolutions beyond 0.01 simply isn't fair because it's not accurate. It's proven to be random.

    "On another note, at the 1999 World Alpine Chmps at Beaver Creek, where we (TAG Heuer) were official timing, there was a tie for first in the mens SG between Kjus and Maier. Naturally we had the tapes, so for fun we calculated who won without truncation. Of course we kept that tidbit of information to ourselves. Later that night, persons unknown (still unknown to this day) broke into the timing bldg at Birds of Prey and stole the tapes. The next day, the "real winner" was published in a bunch of newspapers in Europe, along with photos of the stolen tapes."


    "Yes, start gates are a technological mess. Not to mention there is no consistency, nor any flex standard, nor any thermocompensation standard, from wand to wand. So if you were to replace a wand mid-race, which most of us have done, you could be unknowingly changing your race results significantly. Certainly enough to break or make ties.

    "In the 90's, TAG Heuer had some very expensive experimental carbon fiber wands manufactured for World Cup because, in theory, carbon wands would be way stronger and hopefully more consistent than the fiberglass wands we were using at the time. This particular batch of wands was built by a Formula One supplier to a very tight tolerance, so they were supposedly very consistent and came with lab test data. The carbon wands worked great until we tried them at World Cup in Lake Louise @ -37C, whereupon they shattered like icicles every 5 racers or so. Working as an arm of TAG Heuer with factory support was a lot of fun back then because the big cheeses at the time, Jean Campiche and Ted Savage, were very interested in advancing the level of engineering, so we could get budgets to design and build new widgets and try new technologies from time to time. Some of the ideas worked, some of them didn't.

    "Having our tapes stolen at the WASC wasn't a catastrophe, but it was certainly amusing. They're not a secret. Any athlete or coach has the right to examine race tapes and do their own math, which is one of the successes of the TWG. It may seem like a big pain in the tush for timing geeks to fill out timing forms and submit their forms & tapes to the Chief of Timing, and I've certainly heard a ton of complaints about it. But in an era where there is extensive betting on ski racing and a lot of corruption & conflict of interest in the sports headlines, transparency is important.

    "I have no better idea than you as to whether wands will ever be replaced with photocells. I'm not on the TWG and I'm an engineer, not a politician. It's a FIS decision, a phrase which makes us all cringe. As a practical engineering matter, it's a no-brainer. Keep an unplugged start gate on the start post for TV and start the race with a photocell mounted 1m down the hill. Duh." "This (obviously) isn't a technological question, it's a philosophical question. Anybody with the skills necessary to time a ski race to 0.01 would most certainly be capable of timing one to 0.001 or 0.0001, if the greater resolution was what the rules called for.

    "Here's the reason.

    "The FIS Timing Working Group has been trying to get rid of mechanical start gates since the 80's. They maintain until that happens, the random mechanical slop inherent in mechanical switches and the random flex inherent in start wands makes timing to .001 simply a random draw. And they've proved it. Repeatedly.

    "The FIS TWG made their decision based on data collected by my technical group at FIS World Cup and the World Alpine Chmps in the 90's (as TAG Heuer) and then revisited based on data we collected in the 00's (as Rolex). We installed several sets of cells downhill of the start gate (on the start ramp) at 1m intervals and collected data for both men and women across all the disciplines. Analysis of the data clearly showed that mechanical start gates are, to a relevant resolution, random number generators.

    "This is a question much like the one brought up at the summer Olympics in Munich in 1972. A few months before the Olympics, FINA announced they'd obtained the technology to time swimming to .001, and would start at The Games. FINA were subsequently contacted by the engineering firm who'd designed and supervised construction of the pool in Germany. Representatives from the firm sent FINA a mathematical proof showing that at speeds typical for Olympic swimmers, the pool wasn't built to sufficient tolerances to where all lanes were of equal length to a degree where .001 would be fair. And notice...to this day...swimming also still publishes results only to 0.01. FINA have shelved the idea of 0.001 for over 40 years because no mechanical engineer will certify a pool with walls and touchpad mounts so precisely built that 0.001 would be consistent and fair across all lanes.

    "Think about it from an engineering standpoint.....let's say you had a time base accurate to 0.0000001 and photocells only accurate to 1.0 seconds. Sure, you could publish results to 0.000001, but anything beyond a full second would be random and therefore useless.

    "Mechanical start gates are an anachronism, but the TWG has to date been unable to get rid of them. It's a tradition FIS hasn't been willing to part with. Until that happens, publishing results to resolutions beyond 0.01 simply isn't fair because it's not accurate. It's proven to be random.

    "On another note, at the 1999 World Alpine Chmps at Beaver Creek, where we (TAG Heuer) were official timing, there was a tie for first in the mens SG between Kjus and Maier. Naturally we had the tapes, so for fun we calculated who won without truncation. Of course we kept that tidbit of information to ourselves. Later that night, persons unknown (still unknown to this day) broke into the timing bldg at Birds of Prey and stole the tapes. The next day, the "real winner" was published in a bunch of newspapers in Europe, along with photos of the stolen tapes."

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    "Yes, start gates are a technological mess. Not to mention there is no consistency, nor any flex standard, nor any thermocompensation standard, from wand to wand. So if you were to replace a wand mid-race, which most of us have done, you could be unknowingly changing your race results significantly. Certainly enough to break or make ties.

    "In the 90's, TAG Heuer had some very expensive experimental carbon fiber wands manufactured for World Cup because, in theory, carbon wands would be way stronger and hopefully more consistent than the fiberglass wands we were using at the time. This particular batch of wands was built by a Formula One supplier to a very tight tolerance, so they were supposedly very consistent and came with lab test data. The carbon wands worked great until we tried them at World Cup in Lake Louise @ -37C, whereupon they shattered like icicles every 5 racers or so. Working as an arm of TAG Heuer with factory support was a lot of fun back then because the big cheeses at the time, Jean Campiche and Ted Savage, were very interested in advancing the level of engineering, so we could get budgets to design and build new widgets and try new technologies from time to time. Some of the ideas worked, some of them didn't.

    "Having our tapes stolen at the WASC wasn't a catastrophe, but it was certainly amusing. They're not a secret. Any athlete or coach has the right to examine race tapes and do their own math, which is one of the successes of the TWG. It may seem like a big pain in the tush for timing geeks to fill out timing forms and submit their forms & tapes to the Chief of Timing, and I've certainly heard a ton of complaints about it. But in an era where there is extensive betting on ski racing and a lot of corruption & conflict of interest in the sports headlines, transparency is important.

    "I have no better idea than you as to whether wands will ever be replaced with photocells. I'm not on the TWG and I'm an engineer, not a politician. It's a FIS decision, a phrase which makes us all cringe. As a practical engineering matter, it's a no-brainer. Keep an unplugged start gate on the start post for TV and start the race with a photocell mounted 1m down the hill. Duh."
     
    "So there you have it, no point in going to higher accuracy results reporting, the mechanical start gate assembly makes it pointless."

     
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    Dragon got a reaction from maestro in Cross-Country Skiing Discussion | Qualification to Winter Olympic Games Milano Cortina 2026   
    Just wanted to mention this.
     
    This week's edition of the Keep The Flame Alive podcast will feature an interview with Bruna
    https://flamealivepod.com/
     
    Will be available late on Thursday European time.
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    Dragon got a reaction from stepansevs in Winter European Youth Olympic Festival 2025   
    Are we all looking forward to next week's barbeque event?

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    Dragon got a reaction from intoronto in Winter European Youth Olympic Festival 2025   
    Are we all looking forward to next week's barbeque event?

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    Dragon got a reaction from Gianlu33 in Winter European Youth Olympic Festival 2025   
    Are we all looking forward to next week's barbeque event?

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    Dragon got a reaction from hckošice in Winter European Youth Olympic Festival 2025   
    Are we all looking forward to next week's barbeque event?

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