[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[heywoodu 15,141]

7 minutes ago, hckosice said:

  Always surprised that young Americans never fights for a referendum on lowering the alcohol minimum legal drinking age to 18 

No legal drinking until you're 21, but driving when you're 16 is ok

 

[Wumo 3,002]

3 minutes ago, hckosice said:

  Always surprised that young Americans never fights for a referendum on lowering the alcohol minimum legal drinking age to 18 

Colorado tried to have a proposition on this: 

https://ballotpedia.org/Colorado_Lower_Alcohol_Drinking_Age_Initiative_(2018)

Also South Dakota, but that was from 21 to 19.

https://ballotpedia.org/South_Dakota_Drinking_Age_Initiative_(2008)

Missouri

https://ballotpedia.org/Second_Missouri_Initiative_to_Lower_Drinking_Age_(2008)

And of course, California 

https://ballotpedia.org/California_Lower_Drinking_Age_to_18_Initiative_(2016)

[Olympian1010 7,976]

11 minutes ago, hckosice said:

  Always surprised that young Americans never fights for a referendum on lowering the alcohol minimum legal drinking age to 18 

I think voting, alcohol, and marijuana should be 16

[LDOG 2,418]

hace 30 minutos, wumo26 said:

@Olympian1010 California always have so many ballot measures. 

 

 

Wtf Aren't these the type of things that the government and not the common citizen should decide? This is plebiscite democracy up to eleven.

[heywoodu 15,141]

Just now, Olympian1010 said:

I think voting, alcohol, and marijuana should be 16

I think 18 is young enough actually. There's always exceptions, but there are way too many 16-year olds who are in no way responsible enough to vote, drink or smoke weed. There are 18-year olds like that too obviously, but probably significantly less than 16-year olds.

[heywoodu 15,141]

Just now, LDOG said:

 

Wtf Aren't these the type of things that the government and not the common citizen should decide? This is plebiscite democracy up to eleven.

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(I agree though)

Edited November 6, 2018 by heywoodu

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33 minutes ago, wumo26 said:

@Olympian1010 California always have so many ballot measures. 

 

Any new laws in California have to be approved by the electorate, then added to the state constitution.

 

Fun fact California has the longest Constitution in the word

 

Also

P1: Yes

P2: Yes

P3: No (keep Water wild)

P4: Yes

P5: No (rich can move less)

P6: Yes (the government should not decide the tax rates without citizens approval)

P7: No (I like daylight savings)

P8: Yes

P10: Yes

P11: Yes

P12: Yes

[Wumo 3,002]

Arizona had an "interesting" ballot measure in 2006 

 

 

[Olympian1010 7,976]

9 minutes ago, LDOG said:

 

Wtf Aren't these the type of things that the government and not the common citizen should decide? This is plebiscite democracy up to eleven.

#Socialism

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9 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I think 18 is young enough actually. There's always exceptions, but there are way too many 16-year olds who are in no way responsible enough to vote, drink or smoke weed. There are 18-year olds like that too obviously, but probably significantly less than 16-year olds.

I know 30 years old that qualify for none too. (I actually have the ultra radical belief that voting age should 14)