Biathlon IBU World Cup 2020 - 2021

[Werloc 3,191]

3 minutes ago, Col_Frost said:

Well, I didn't think that. Another run one day after 15/20 km? I was sure that there will be changes  

Those that were replaced were definitely not replaced because of their tired legs after a 15/20. Nearly all of them finished between 70-100 and the teams don't usually consider the well being of their weakest athletes that much.

[Col_Frost 179]

24 minutes ago, Werloc said:

Those that were replaced were definitely not replaced because of their tired legs after a 15/20. Nearly all of them finished between 70-100 and the teams don't usually consider the well being of their weakest athletes that much.

What did you expect? That they'll change this from top 20?  

[Werloc 3,191]

3 minutes ago, Col_Frost said:

What did you expect? That they'll change this from top 20?  

I'm just saying that these swaps are not because of coaches considering athletes after a 15/20km run.

 

It's a mix of underperformers getting replaced as well, as some youngsters coming in that don't have the legs for 20k yet and some teams are putting forward their faster skiers that don't shoot as well.

[RobtheAggie 340]

26 minutes ago, Werloc said:

It's a mix of underperformers getting replaced as well, as some youngsters coming in that don't have the legs for 20k yet and some teams are putting forward their faster skiers that don't shoot as well.

I think the Swiss switch to Tamborino instead of Hartwig was more about getting Hartwig a start and was planned.  Stadler did worse that Hartwig, 54 vs 60, but he is still in the sprint.  To me, that seems like it was a planned switch. 

[RobtheAggie 340]

1 hour ago, Werloc said:

Less than 24 hours between the races, you'd probably expect the teams to not go too crazy and not switch around the athletes during a Covid year, but it happened.

 

Oryashkov (101st) for Bulgaria out, Todev, 19yo in

Millar (98th) out for Canada, Burnotte, 23yo in

Krupcik (76th) out for Czech Republic, Mikyska, 20yo in

Siimer (85th) out for Estonia, Raenkel, 30yo in

Ranta (66th) out for Finland, Hiidensalo, 29yo in

Beletskiy (95th) out for Kazakhstan, Sirik, 26yo in

Balodis (58th) and Slotins (96th) out for Latvia, Matjuhins 19yo, Birkentals 19yo in

Skorusa (94th) out for Poland, Szwajnos, 22yo in

Trsan (69th) out for Slovenia, Cisar, 20yo in

Hartweg (54th) out for Switzerland, Tambornino, 34yo in

Baloga (92nd) out for Slovakia, Bartko, 24yo in

Dudchenko (99th) out for Ukraine, Lesiuk, 24yo in

 

Women, imagine that, have 104 starters compared to 101 men. Which sport can actually boast about that?

 

Sola (66th) out for Belarus, Kruchinkina I., 25yo in

Vobornikova (82nd) out for Czech Republic, Tepla, 21yo in

Lehtonen (79th) out for Finland, Laari, 30yo in

Weidel (68th) out for Germany, Schneider, 23yo in

Kolomiyets (86th) out for Kazakhstan, Klimina, 31yo in

Ko (100th) and Kim (101st) out for South Korea, Mun 32yo, Frolina 36yo in

Puce, 21yo is in for Latvia, moving them up to two starters

Goreeva (56th) out for Russia, Mironova, 26yo in

Selina Gasparin did not start in the individual for unknown reasons, but she is in the startlist for the sprint

Bekh (64th) out for Ukraine, Valj Semerenko, 34yo in

Phaneuf (75th) out for United States, Irwin, 28yo in

 

So remember, you have to do good or you might get replaced by an IBU cup athlete.

 

@Werloc  Thanks for compiling this list!

[heywoodu 16,459]

1 hour ago, Werloc said:

Weidel (68th) out for Germany, Schneider, 23yo in

Screw you, German coaches  

[Werloc 3,191]

After today, it's only the twelth time that a Lithuanian biathlete makes it into the top 20. A lot of it is still dominated by Diana, but Vytautas and Tomas still have a career ahead of them.

 

1. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 8th place, 2011/12 season, Oberhof Sprint

2. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 10th place, 2009/10 season, Oberhof Sprint

3. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 11th place, 2008/09 season, Pyeong Chang WCH Sprint

4. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 11th place, 2006/07 season, Pokljuka Sprint

5. Tomas Kaukėnas, 13th place, 2018 Pyeong Chang Olympic Games Pursuit

6. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 15th place, 2011/12 season, Khantiy-Mansiysk Sprint

7. Vytautas Strolia, 16th place, 2020/21 season, Kontiolahti Individual

8. Tomas Kaukėnas, 17th place, 2018 Pyeong Chang Olympic Games Sprint

9. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 18th place, 2006 Turino Olympics Games Sprint

10. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 18th place, 2013/14 season, Ostersund Individual

11. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 19th place, 2009/10 season, Rupholding Sprint

12. Vytautas Strolia, 20th place, 2019/20 season, Oberhof Sprint

 

There are further three Lithuanians that have made top 40 in the past

 

25th Karol Dombrovski, 2018/19 season, Pokljuka Individual

27th Natalija Kočergina, 2018/19 season, Ostersund WCH Sprint

39th Gabrielė Leščinskaitė, 2014/15 season, Kontiolahti WCH Individual

 

A humble history for Lithuanian biathlon, but yes, only six athletes have made it into the top 40 at least once and we're in this for like 20 years.

 

Only Diana Rasimovičiūtė is no longer active.

 

 

[Col_Frost 179]

1 hour ago, Werloc said:

I'm just saying that these swaps are not because of coaches considering athletes after a 15/20km run.

So we can agree that we disagree  

[Monzanator 5,096]

54 minutes ago, Werloc said:

After today, it's only the twelth time that a Lithuanian biathlete makes it into the top 20. A lot of it is still dominated by Diana, but Vytautas and Tomas still have a career ahead of them.

 

1. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 8th place, 2011/12 season, Oberhof Sprint

2. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 10th place, 2009/10 season, Oberhof Sprint

3. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 11th place, 2008/09 season, Pyeong Chang WCH Sprint

4. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 11th place, 2006/07 season, Pokljuka Sprint

5. Tomas Kaukėnas, 13th place, 2018 Pyeong Chang Olympic Games Pursuit

6. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 15th place, 2011/12 season, Khantiy-Mansiysk Sprint

7. Vytautas Strolia, 16th place, 2020/21 season, Kontiolahti Individual

8. Tomas Kaukėnas, 17th place, 2018 Pyeong Chang Olympic Games Sprint

9. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 18th place, 2006 Turino Olympics Games Sprint

10. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 18th place, 2013/14 season, Ostersund Individual

11. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 19th place, 2009/10 season, Rupholding Sprint

12. Vytautas Strolia, 20th place, 2019/20 season, Oberhof Sprint

 

There are further three Lithuanians that have made top 40 in the past

 

25th Karol Dombrovski, 2018/19 season, Pokljuka Individual

27th Natalija Kočergina, 2018/19 season, Ostersund WCH Sprint

39th Gabrielė Leščinskaitė, 2014/15 season, Kontiolahti WCH Individual

 

A humble history for Lithuanian biathlon, but yes, only six athletes have made it into the top 40 at least once and we're in this for like 20 years.

 

Only Diana Rasimovičiūtė is no longer active.

 

 

 

Can we have Karol Dombrovski back? He'd be an immediate upgrade for our men's team

[Werloc 3,191]

3 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

Can we have Karol Dombrovski back? He'd be an immediate upgrade for our men's team

I don't think he was ever yours to begin with? 

 

Born and raised in Lithuania and did all his junior and senior races for Lithuania.

 

Just because he has a Polish surname, doesn't mean you can claim him