Swimming 2017 Discussion Thread

[heywoodu 15,145]

1 minute ago, dcro said:

 

Maybe he wants to have a life outside of swimming.

 

Then say that you want to have a life outside of swimming instead of coming up with bullshit excuses like this 

[intoronto 5,643]

Canada's swim team was announced for the 2017 World Championships

 

Arguably the best ever women's team . Multiple medals are expected. However the men's team is literally the weakest ever. Only 5 individual swims have qualified. The two strongest men are not competing Cochrane (retired) and Condorelli (unsure, but rumours are he is switching to compete for Italy).

[phelps 7,677]

1 hour ago, intoronto said:

Canada's swim team was announced for the 2017 World Championships

 

Arguably the best ever women's team . Multiple medals are expected. However the men's team is literally the weakest ever. Only 5 individual swims have qualified. The two strongest men are not competing Cochrane (retired) and Condorelli (unsure, but rumours are he is switching to compete for Italy).

 

really? here in Italy not a single word has ever been written about this chance...

We all know (it was even confirmed by one or two officials from our NF) that a few years ago Italy tried to get Aussie Tommaso D'Orsogna and US Nick Brunelli, but both said "no, thanks", but nobody here did even mention the possibility of asking Condorelli to swim for Italy (by the way, it would be a great addition to our team)...

[bestmen 2,818]

Eindhoven Swim Cup, Day 1 Results    1500m, 4th place for cherouati she got the minima and qualified to the world champs

Edited April 11, 2017 by bestmen

[dareza 911]

1:53.81 for Rylov. New ER. But Russia have new star in this discipline. 16 years old Kliment Kolesnikov swam 1:55.49 

[dareza 911]

World Championship this year will be crazy. top 3 so far in Olympic disciplines:

 

Freestyle

 

50m: 1. Sjostrom 23.83 2. Blume 24.14 3. Kromowidjojo 24.34

50m: 1. Morozov 21.44 2. McEvoy 21.55 3. Sedov 21.74

100m: 1. Sjostrom 52.54 2. C. Campbell 52.78 3. B. Campbell 52.85

100m: 1. McEvoy 47.91 2. Adrian 48.18 3. Chalmers 48.20

200m: 1. Coleman 1:55.64 2. McKeon 1:55.68 3. Pellegrini 1:55.94

200m: 1. Sun 1:44.91 2. Detti 1:46.38 2. Wang 1:46. 57

400m: 1. Ledecky 4:01.01 2. Li 4:02.52 3. Titmus 4:04.82

400m: 1. Sun 3:42.16 2. Detti 3:42.36 3. Horton 3:44.18

800m: 1. Ledecki 8:15.44 2. Titmus 8:23.08 3. Quadarella 8:25.08

1500m: 1. Paltrinieri 14:37.08 2. Detti 14:48.21 3. Horton 14:51.21

 

Backstroke

 

100m: 1. Masse 58.21 2. Seebohm 58.62 3. Fu 58.72

100m: 1. Xu 51.86 2. Rylov 53.13 2. Grevers 53.31

200m: 1. Seebohm 2:07.03 2. Ustinova 2:07.23 and Masse 2:07.23

200m: 1. Rylov 1:53.81 2. Xu 1:54.03 3. Kolesnikov 1:55.49

 

Breaststroke

 

100m: 1. Efimova 1:05.90 2. Johansson 1:06.30 3. Meili 1:06.37

100m: 1. Peaty 58.86 2. Yan 58.92 3. Koseki 59.26

200m: 1. Efimova 2:21.35 2. McKeown 2:23.58 3. Tutton 2:23.89

200m: 1. Watanabe 2:06.67 2. Persson 2:07.85 3. Chupkov 2:08.03

 

Butterfly

 

100m: 1. Sjostrom 56.26 2. Ikee 56.89 2. McKeon 57.27

100m: 1. le Clos 51.29 2. Li 51.34 3. Morgan 51.81

200m: 1. Hasegawa 2:02.96 2. Hentke 2:06.84 3. Makino 2:06.92

200m: 1. Sakai 1:53.71 2. Seto 1:54.28 3. le Clos 1:55.00

 

IM

 

200m: 1. Pickrem 2:09.56 2. Ohhashi 2:09.96 3. Ikee 2:09.98

200m: 1. Morgan 1:55.70 2. Hagino 1:56.01 3. Irvine 1:56.05

400m: 1. Ohhashi 4:31.42 2. Belmonte Garcia 4:35.01 3. Pickrem 4:35.43

400m: 1. Verraszto 4:10.01 2. Seto 4:10.22 3. Hagino 4:10.45

 

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Really great times for this period.

[George_D 1,205]

Nice to see a lot of difference nations in top 3 performances

[OlympicsFan 858]

vor 22 Stunden schrieb dareza:

World Championship this year will be crazy. top 3 so far in Olympic disciplines:

 

Freestyle

 

50m: 1. Sjostrom 23.83 2. Blume 24.14 3. Kromowidjojo 24.34

50m: 1. Morozov 21.44 2. McEvoy 21.55 3. Sedov 21.74

100m: 1. Sjostrom 52.54 2. C. Campbell 52.78 3. B. Campbell 52.85

100m: 1. McEvoy 47.91 2. Adrian 48.18 3. Chalmers 48.20

200m: 1. Coleman 1:55.64 2. McKeon 1:55.68 3. Pellegrini 1:55.94

200m: 1. Sun 1:44.91 2. Detti 1:46.38 2. Wang 1:46. 57

400m: 1. Ledecky 4:01.01 2. Li 4:02.52 3. Titmus 4:04.82

400m: 1. Sun 3:42.16 2. Detti 3:42.36 3. Horton 3:44.18

800m: 1. Ledecki 8:15.44 2. Titmus 8:23.08 3. Quadarella 8:25.08

1500m: 1. Paltrinieri 14:37.08 2. Detti 14:48.21 3. Horton 14:51.21

 

Backstroke

 

100m: 1. Masse 58.21 2. Seebohm 58.62 3. Fu 58.72

100m: 1. Xu 51.86 2. Rylov 53.13 2. Grevers 53.31

200m: 1. Seebohm 2:07.03 2. Ustinova 2:07.23 and Masse 2:07.23

200m: 1. Rylov 1:53.81 2. Xu 1:54.03 3. Kolesnikov 1:55.49

 

Breaststroke

 

100m: 1. Efimova 1:05.90 2. Johansson 1:06.30 3. Meili 1:06.37

100m: 1. Peaty 58.86 2. Yan 58.92 3. Koseki 59.26

200m: 1. Efimova 2:21.35 2. McKeown 2:23.58 3. Tutton 2:23.89

200m: 1. Watanabe 2:06.67 2. Persson 2:07.85 3. Chupkov 2:08.03

 

Butterfly

 

100m: 1. Sjostrom 56.26 2. Ikee 56.89 2. McKeon 57.27

100m: 1. le Clos 51.29 2. Li 51.34 3. Morgan 51.81

200m: 1. Hasegawa 2:02.96 2. Hentke 2:06.84 3. Makino 2:06.92

200m: 1. Sakai 1:53.71 2. Seto 1:54.28 3. le Clos 1:55.00

 

IM

 

200m: 1. Pickrem 2:09.56 2. Ohhashi 2:09.96 3. Ikee 2:09.98

200m: 1. Morgan 1:55.70 2. Hagino 1:56.01 3. Irvine 1:56.05

400m: 1. Ohhashi 4:31.42 2. Belmonte Garcia 4:35.01 3. Pickrem 4:35.43

400m: 1. Verraszto 4:10.01 2. Seto 4:10.22 3. Hagino 4:10.45

 

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Really great times for this period.

Good work compling that list, my friend, but i have a few questions:

Mens 200 IM: When did Morgan and Irvine swim those times? According to my list it should be 1) Hagino 1:56.01 2) Shun 1:56.16 3) Seto 1:56.90

Womens 400 IM: ... 3) Teramura 4:35.20

Womens 100 fly: ... 3) Chimrova 57.17

Mens 200 breast: ... 2) Koseki 2:0718 3) Persson 2:07.85

Womens 200 breast: ... 2) Asaba 2:23.53 3) McKeown 2:53.58

Womens 100 breast: ... 1) Aoki 1:05.29 2) Efimova 1:05.90 3) Makino 1:06.05

Mens 50 free: ... 3) Sedov/Proud 21.74

Womens 800 free: ... 2) Li 8:20.89 3) Titmus 8:23.08

 

By the way: Cate Campbell wont compete in Budapest.

 

Very interesting to see how strong Japan, China, Russia and the canadian women are right now (Italy is also doing quite well and they have a relatively young team with Detti, Paltrinieri, Martinenghi, Miressi, Quadarella, Carini). We have already seen tons of new junior world records by Martinenghi, Kolesnikov, Zhuhao, Tan, Ikee and Hasegawa.

 

I see up to 8 medals for Canada, up to 10 medals for Japan, at least 8 medals for China and at least 6 medals for Russia.

 

The british, american, french and german nationals are still to come, so when can expect to see a lot more very fast times leading up to Budapest.

[dareza 911]

57 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

Good work compling that list, my friend, but i have a few questions:

Mens 200 IM: When did Morgan and Irvine swim those times? According to my list it should be 1) Hagino 1:56.01 2) Shun 1:56.16 3) Seto 1:56.90

Womens 400 IM: ... 3) Teramura 4:35.20

Womens 100 fly: ... 3) Chimrova 57.17

Mens 200 breast: ... 2) Koseki 2:0718 3) Persson 2:07.85

Womens 200 breast: ... 2) Asaba 2:23.53 3) McKeown 2:53.58

Womens 100 breast: ... 1) Aoki 1:05.29 2) Efimova 1:05.90 3) Makino 1:06.05

Mens 50 free: ... 3) Sedov/Proud 21.74

Womens 800 free: ... 2) Li 8:20.89 3) Titmus 8:23.08

 

By the way: Cate Campbell wont compete in Budapest.

 

Very interesting to see how strong Japan, China, Russia and the canadian women are right now (Italy is also doing quite well and they have a relatively young team with Detti, Paltrinieri, Martinenghi, Miressi, Quadarella, Carini). We have already seen tons of new junior world records by Martinenghi, Kolesnikov, Zhuhao, Tan, Ikee and Hasegawa.

 

I see up to 8 medals for Canada, up to 10 medals for Japan, at least 8 medals for China and at least 6 medals for Russia.

 

The british, american, french and german nationals are still to come, so when can expect to see a lot more very fast times leading up to Budapest.

 

I found results here http://www.fina.org/content/swimming-world-ranking

[OlympicsFan 858]

vor 22 Minuten schrieb dareza:

 

I found results here http://www.fina.org/content/swimming-world-ranking

About the mens 200 IM results:

Here are the live results from the australian swimming championships:

http://liveresults.swimming.org.au/SAL/2017OPEN/

Mens 200 IM prelims took place in session 5, the fastest time was 2:02.04 by Travis Mahoney.

Mens 200 IM finals took place in session 6, the fastest time was 1:59.24 by Clyde Lewis.

I think Morgan and Irvine didnt even compete + the australian record is 1:56.69 by Leith Brodie from 2009 ...

I used to look up the world rankings at the FINA website too, but in my opinion they are very slow to update their rankings and make a lot of mistakes. A while back i for example saw 4 or 5 japanese girls (i never heard of) being at the top of the world ranking in the 400 IM, with times that were faster than the current world record ... i think they mix up short course and long course times quite often.

 

Nowadays i take the world rankings from "Swimswam":

https://swimswam.com/

Edited April 18, 2017 by OlympicsFan