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vor 15 Stunden schrieb hckosice:

 

Nothing, he just DNS, as one of the world cup top 10 he is automatically pre-qualified. It´s his right to save some energy for tomorrow and DNS in the qualifiers.

 

I still hate this system, though. Yes, it's the jumper's right to use the rules to their advantage. And Stoch is far from the first ski jumper not to start in a qualification. It was Sven Hannawald, who started it all. But I wish the FIS would change the rules, that the Top 10 have to start in the qualification at the 4 hills tournament as well.

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5 hours ago, EselTheDonkey said:

 

I still hate this system, though. Yes, it's the jumper's right to use the rules to their advantage. And Stoch is far from the first ski jumper not to start in a qualification. It was Sven Hannawald, who started it all. But I wish the FIS would change the rules, that the Top 10 have to start in the qualification at the 4 hills tournament as well.

 

I don't know which rule is worse, this or WC Top 10 also being prequalified for the Olympics competitions (!!) :facepalm:

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1 minute ago, mihamiha said:

judges once again ruined it.eisenbichler almost fell and got 18.5:facepalm:he should be behind domen

17.5 + 17.5 + 18.0, that's not that unrealistic. 

 

Not the most perfect, but that's what you get when there's judges giving points in a sport. It all evens out in the long term usually. 

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Daniel Andre Tande first winner in 2017

Kamil Stoch, Daniel Andre Tande, Stefan Kraft

 

The record of Sven Hannawald, who is the only jumper to win all four 4-Hills competitions in one season, will last for at least one more year. After Stefan Kraft's win in Oberstdorf, Daniel Andre Tande was the winner in the New Year's competition in Garmisch-Partenkirchen. 3.2 points behind, Poland's Kamil Stoch came in second. Stefan Kraft (AUT) finished third.

 

What a competition! What a final! Three athletes jumped over the 140 m in the second round. Under excellent weather conditions, the 20 000 fans at the traditional New Year's competition in Garmisch-Partenkirchen got their money's worth. And with Markus Eisenbichler also a German athlete was all smiles on this sunny day, even if the wait for the next home win, after Sven Hannawald 2002, is still not over.

 

The Norwegian ski jumpers were waiting in the outrun. After his 138 m in the first round, Daniel Andre Tande jumped on 142 m in the final.

 

Kamil Stoch has just moved up from fifth to first with the longest jump of the day on 143 m. Pure excitment until the results were official and the Norwegians started celebrating. Tom Hilde and the others carried Daniel Andre Tande on their shoulders after he won with 289.2 points. "I tried to be relaxed before my first jump and now I'm more than happy that I could win here in Garmisch-Partenkirchen. Of course you always need some luck, in summer I was working on my technique", said the happy 22-year-old Norwegian.

 

Also Kamil Stoch (135.5 m and 143 m; 286.0 points) was everything but disappointed. "This was a fantastic jump of 143 m. The hard work in summer now pays off. Many jumpers can win the 4-Hills-Tournament, I enjoy competing with all these top athletes", the double Olympic champion said with a view towards the upcoming competitions in Innsbruck and Bischofshofen.

 

Stefan Kraft lost his overall lead, but the 23-year-old was really happy about his jumps of 137 m and 140 m (282.4 points) and the third place. "I'm very satisfied with the start of the new year. It's amazing that I could be on the podium here in Garmisch-Partenkirchen", Kraft explained at the press conference. In the overall ranking he is now only 0.8 points behind the leader, that's less than half a meter. 

 

The ski jumping fans in the Olympic stadium saw an extremely strong performance of the German ski jumpers. Nine of them qualified for the New Year's competition and seven reached the final of the Top 30. With jumps of 136.5 m and 139.5 m and a total of 278.9 points Markus Eisenbichler finished fourth. Due to a not so good landing he came in 2.5 points behind the podium. "Markus Eisenblicher is growing as a person, we can expect a lot from him", said Werner Schuster.

 

Stephan Leyhe also showed a good performance and was eighth with 135.5 m and 134 m and 268.8 points - this is the career-best for the 24-year-old from Willingen. "It was a good day for us. Also the jumpers, who are not our top athletes, showed some good jumps today", Schuster said after the first half of the 4-Hills-Tournament.

 

With Andreas Wellinger (13th) and Richard Freitag (15th) two other Germans were in the Top 15. Only the top jumper of hte past few years, Severin Freund, is still having some problems. But the head coach doesn't want to overestimate the current situation. Last season's overall World Cup winner, Peter Prevc, is in a similar situation and also still struggling with his shape. "Severin can assess the situation, he knows what the problem is", said the coach. 

 

The rest of the 4-Hills-Tournament promises to be exciting. Kamil Stoch is the overall leader with 591.2 points, Stefan Kraft (590.4 points) is now second. After today's win, Daniel Andre Tande is only 5.6 points behind and will definitely be able to fight for the win. And even Markus Eisenbichler (572.0 points) can hope for a podium finish in the overall ranking.

 

The field in the overall World Cup also got closer again. Domen Prevc remains in the lead with 590 points, but the winner of the New Year's competition, Daniel Andre Tande, closed the gap (532 points). 

 

For the second half, the 65th 4-Hills-Tournament is now moving from Germany to Austria. The next two competitions will be held on the Bergisel in Innsbruck and on the Paul-Ausserleitner-hill in Bischofshofen. After a day of rest, the 4-Hills-Tournament will continue on Tuesday, January 3rd, with the qualification (2:00 pm CET) in the host city of the 1964 and 1976 Olympic Winter Games.

 

 

Full Results Here

 

 

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4 Hills Tournament

Stage 3 Innsbruck

KO Round Starting Order

 

Q Athlete Pairing Athlete Q
26 :SLO Jurij TEPES 1 Richard FREITAG :GER 25
27 :NOR Robert JOHANSSON 2 Noriaki KASAI :JPN 24
28 :CZE Jakub JANDA 3 Jarkko MAEAETTAE :FIN

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29 :CZE Roman KOUDELKA 4 Simon AMMANN :SUI 22
30 :AUT Elias TOLLINGER 5 Andreas KOFLER :AUT 21
31 :AUT Florian ALTENBURGER 6 Daid KUBACKI :POL 20
32 :SLO Jernej DAMJAN 7 Clemens AIGNER :AUT 19
33 :JPN Daiki ITO 8 Domen PREVC :SLO 18
34 :POL Jan ZIOBRO 9 Markus SCHIFFNER :AUT 17
35 :CZE Lukas HLAVA 10 Stefan HULA :POL 16
36 :AUT Daniel HUBER 11 Kevin BICKNER :USA 15
37 :AUT Stefan HUBER 12 Peter PREVC :SLO 14
38 :NOR Halvor Egner GRANERUD 13 Evgeniy KLIMOV :RUS 13
39 :RUS Dimitry VASSILIEV 14 Stephan LEYHE :GER 12
40 :SLO Anze SEMENIC 15 Andreas STJERNEN :NOR 11
41 :GER Karl GEIGER 16 Cene PREVC :SLO 10
42 :CAN Mackenzie BOYD-CLOWES 17 Andreas WELLINGER :GER 9
43 :ITA Sebastian COLLOREDO 18 Vincent DESCOMBES SEVOIE :FRA 8
44 :ITA Alex INSAM 19 Manuel FETTNER :AUT 7
45 :JPN Taku TAKEUCHI 20 Markus EISENBICHLER :GER 6
46 :RUS Denis KORNILOV 21 Daniel Andre TANDE :NOR 5
47 :GER Severin FREUND 22 Michael HAYBOECK :AUT 4
48 :NOR Anders FANNEMEL 23 Piotr ZYLA :POL 3
49 :POL Klemens MURANKA 24 Maciej KOT :POL 2
50 :POL Kamil STOCH 25 Stefan KRAFT :AUT 1

 

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