Siddhartha Talukdar 124 Posted February 21 #91 Share Posted February 21 5 hours ago, Dolby said: So, new PSR should be So, with SR 13 would get 784 points (Total points: 2106), with SR 15 would get 672 (2030) and with SR 17 would get 574 (2024) Infact Poland would be at 2114 (assuming same SR). So, by my calculations is the one who will miss out. Why would the SR get renewed. There is a calculation of how team points are distributed among individual players, but I don't understand it. Have you taken this into account and can you show the actual calculations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,214 Posted February 21 #92 Share Posted February 21 Yeah, my assumption was the singles rankings would remain constant. If Sweden goes from 16th to 15th then they will qualify to the Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,221 Posted February 21 #93 Share Posted February 21 what a pity our guys did good in general but beating World #2 Germany was too much to ask. I really hope they don't end up #1 among non-qualified teams in the ranking. that would be really hard to swallow, being this close. the key match was vs Portugal in the group round, If they had taken their chances, they would be in a different path, far from tier 1 teams. these guys made lots of fans here by beating Japan at the Asian Games few months ago. that was a miracle, unfortunately they couldn't repeat it here. iran2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illya 422 Posted February 21 #94 Share Posted February 21 30 minutes ago, Siddhartha Talukdar said: Why would the SR get renewed Because it was mentioned by the ITTF that this WChs will affect the ranking in singles via converting points using some formula, but I don't give a damn how it works. But singles ranking will be changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Bun 383 Posted February 21 #95 Share Posted February 21 Appalling from , I know Pitchford was injured but Drinkhall should've won his game from 2-0 up and Jarvis should've done better in his too. Given the position we were in coming into this, missing out on the quota is a major disappointment and sums up GB table tennis down to a T - the best we can hope/aim for now is 3-4 quotas from the singles qualifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rybak 2,694 Posted February 21 #96 Share Posted February 21 3 hours ago, Illya said: I think it's the wrong context, because they are (probably) talking about entering the top-8 and direct quota If not directly, then we should be qualified by ranking, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illya 422 Posted February 21 #97 Share Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, rybak said: If not directly, then we should be qualified by ranking, right? Yes rybak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddhartha Talukdar 124 Posted February 22 #98 Share Posted February 22 11 hours ago, Illya said: Because it was mentioned by the ITTF that this WChs will affect the ranking in singles via converting points using some formula, but I don't give a damn how it works. But singles ranking will be changed Documentation of how ranking points of team tournaments are assigned to individual players. Look at 3.1.2. https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/ITTF-Table-Tennis-World-Ranking-Regulations-20240202.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolby 712 Posted February 22 #99 Share Posted February 22 Ok let me clarify. World Team Ranking has the component of Singles Ranking. How is this component calculated? With help of a list having the top 3 players score. For example, China's score would be 8800 (Sun) + 4505 (Wang) + 4325 (Chen) = 17630. Similarly all nations score is calculated and a list is formed. Now, the top nation in the list gets 2000 points. 2nd placed nation gets 1850 and so on. Now, why would this ranking change from what we are seeing at ITTF website at present? Because Singles Ranking of players will change not only because of World Championships (minor change) but also because of points dropped from Feb 2023 and other points earned in Feb 2024. For example, if you check HKG has a Singles Total of 1163 (including 580 of DOO Hoi Kem) but in the WR published on 20 Feb, DOO has only 315 points. So, HKG's score would see a drop in the next update. Since, March Team Ranking would be used for Olympic Qualification, it is safe to assume that March Singles Ranking would be used to calculate that Team Ranking. https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/ITTF-World-Team-Ranking-Regulation-20230524.pdf Since, I have done my calculations on the fly with the main aim of finding out if India has qualified or not, there is a good chance that there might be some errors in the calculations. It would be great if someone can do proper calculations to find out the correct scores. In the Men's section, since the gap between India (last qualified) and Iran (Reserve 1) is decent according to calculations of @Siddhartha Talukdar I have not bothered to check it. Would appreciate if someone did similar calculations for Men's section as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddhartha Talukdar 124 Posted February 22 #100 Share Posted February 22 (edited) Did a superficial analysis on Men's Team including Singles rankings, obviously rankings changes for 40 x 3 players would be a mammoth exercise. So this is my rankings scenario Rank NOC Feb pts WTT 2022 Singles Feb Mar pts WTT 2024 Singles Mar 1 Slovenia 2420 1072 848 2356 1072 784 2 Croatia 2316 1072 622 2316 1072 622 3 India 1942 1072 492 1870 1072 470 4 Iran 936 226 332 1810 1072 360 5 Hong Kong 2660 1464 574 1770 574 574 Edited February 22 by Siddhartha Talukdar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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