Team GB medal hopes - Swimming

[RussB 189]

As we commented after BUCS, Angharad’s progression looks genuine with a time 0.04 outside the British record.

 

my other takeaway from day 1 was the performance of Duncan Scott. He goes a 1m 46 flat in the 200 free and then a 1m 57.7 in the 200 IM off no taper in the same session. Bodes very well for trials and Paris.

 

Also shall give a shout to Keanna Mcinnes who smashed Laura Stephens in the 200 fly going a 2 08 which was surprisingly quick!

[mpjmcevoy 377]

On 2/26/2024 at 11:11 PM, Rafa Maciel said:

Angharad Evans achieved the OQT this weekend with a new PB 1:06.65 at the BUCS Long Course Championship  

 

BTW, we are getting dangerously close to the 30 athlete cap that British Swimming have in their selection document. Really hoping that a few more can be added to the list to give selectors a real dilemma. 

If bolters like Evans come out of the wood work, and various relays, in particular, start looking viable, that 30 'hard' limit will be gone like snow of a rope. That 30 limit is pure penny pinching, but no way they pass up actual medal chnces to keep it.

[Rafa Maciel 1,672]

6 minutes ago, mpjmcevoy said:

If bolters like Evans come out of the wood work, and various relays, in particular, start looking viable, that 30 'hard' limit will be gone like snow of a rope. That 30 limit is pure penny pinching, but no way they pass up actual medal chnces to keep it.

But the actual cost of sending the team to Paris doesn't fall on British Swimming - as far as I am aware, the bill is picked up by the BOA so cost shouldn't be a factor. 

 

It looks like British Swimming have always had a team limit in their selection policy - I thought it had been reduced to 30 for this cycle but it's been set at 30 for Rio and Tokyo so I can't even blame it on Buckner. 

 

Hopefully as you say, if more than 30 athletes are able to get the individual qualifying standards GB Swimming will have the sense to flex their criteria - they did show they were willing/able to be flexible at last year's trials when they realised they had completely balls'd up their selection for Fukuoka.

[Orangehair43 285]

Will they want the BBC going on and on about swimmers missing out to artificial limits. The BBC love selection drama stories.  

[Orangehair43 285]

11 minutes ago, Rafa Maciel said:

But the actual cost of sending the team to Paris doesn't fall on British Swimming - as far as I am aware, the bill is picked up by the BOA so cost shouldn't be a factor. 

 

It looks like British Swimming have always had a team limit in their selection policy - I thought it had been reduced to 30 for this cycle but it's been set at 30 for Rio and Tokyo so I can't even blame it on Buckner. 

 

Hopefully as you say, if more than 30 athletes are able to get the individual qualifying standards GB Swimming will have the sense to flex their criteria - they did show they were willing/able to be flexible at last year's trials when they realised they had completely balls'd up their selection for Fukuoka.

Wiki says the limit was actually 35 for Tokyo. The squad was 30 in Tokyo and they skipped one relay when they still seem to be aiming to accept all the relays this time around. , 

[Orangehair43 285]

57 minutes ago, Rafa Maciel said:

I am sorry but you really do talk some nonsense - I'm not sure if you genuinely believe half the stuff that you write or whether you do it trying to get a rise out of someone. 

The IOC loves control and the governing bodies love control. Athletics is clearly heading towards an entirely world ranking based system and swimming will follow. 

Edited March 9, 2024 by Orangehair43

[RussB 189]

It’ll be interesting what Evans can do in the 200 where we don’t have anyone close to reaching the qualifying standard at the moment. She dropped 7 secs of her PB at the end of 2023 so who knows how low into the 2 20s she can go.

 

the consideration time is a 2 23 flat and her PB from Dec is 2 26.8

[Rafa Maciel 1,672]

39 minutes ago, Orangehair43 said:

Wiki says the limit was actually 35 for Tokyo. The squad was 30 in Tokyo and they skipped one relay when they still seem to be aiming to accept all the relays this time around. , 

For once Wikipedia is right -  the original selection document published for 2020 had a team size limit of 30. A revised version was published in December 2020 and the limit had been increased to 35.

[TeamGB 215]

I hope, they change the team limit. They changed the selection criteria for last years worlds during the national champs so you never know.

 

In terms of the team, this is who I would predict to make it based on current form.

 

Men's 50m Freestyle - (21.88 QT) - Ben Proud, Lewis Burras

 

Men's 100m Freestyle - (48.06 QT) - Matt Richards, Lewis Burras

 

Men's 200m Freestyle - (1:45.96 QT) - Tom Dean, Matt Richards

 

Men's 400m Freestyle - (3:45.43 QT) - None

 

Men's 800m Freestyle - (7:47.81 QT) - Dan Jervis

 

Men's 1500m Freestyle - (14:54.29 QT) - Dan Jervis

 

Men's 100m Backstroke - (53.68 QT) - Oliver Morgan, Luke Greenbank

 

Men's 200m Backstroke - (1:57.28 QT) - Luke Greenbank, Oliver Morgan

 

Men's 100m Breaststroke - (59.45 QT) - Adam Peaty, James Wilby

 

Men's 200m Breaststroke - (2:08.29 QT) - James Wilby

 

Men's 100m Butterfly - (51.56 QT) - James Guy, Jacob Peters

 

Men's 200m Butterfly - (1:54.97 QT) - James Guy??

 

Men's 200m IM - (1:57.49 QT) - Duncan Scott, Tom Dean

 

Men's 400m IM - (4:11.90 QT) - Max Litchfield

 

Men's 4x100m Freestyle - (3:13.04 QT) - Tom Dean, Duncan Scott, Matt Richards, Lewis Burras, Jacob Whittle

 

Men's 4x200m Freestyle - (7:07.40 QT) - Tom Dean, Duncan Scott, Matt Richards, James Guy, Joe Litchfield

 

Men's 4x100m Medley - (3:33.15 QT) - Oliver Morgan, Adam Peaty, James Guy, Matt Richards.

 

Women's 50m Freestyle - (24.65 QT) - Anna Hopkin

 

Women's 100m Freestyle - (53.55 QT) - Anna Hopkin, Freya Anderson

 

Women's 200m Freestyle - (1:56.85 QT) - Freya Anderson, Freya Colbert

 

Women's 400m Freestyle - (4.04.98 QT) - None

 

Women's 800m Freestyle - (8:25.84 QT) - Amelie Blocksidge??

 

Women's 1500m Freestyle - (16:01.95 QT) - Amelie Blocksidge, Fleur Lewis??

 

Women's 100m Backstroke - (59.89 QT) - Medi Harris, Lauren Cox

 

Women's 200m Backstroke - (2:08.91 QT) - Katie Shanahan, Honey Osrin

 

Women's 100m Breaststroke - (1:06.31 QT) - Angharad Evans, Kara Hanlon??

 

Women's 200m Breaststroke - (2:23.04 QT) - Angharad Evans??

 

Women's 100m Butterfly - (57.17 QT) - None (This time is quicker than the national record)

 

Women's 200m Butterfly - (2:07.96 QT) - Laura Stephens, Emily Large

 

Women's 200m IM - (2:10.62 QT) - Abbie Wood, Katie Shanahan

 

Women's 400m IM - (4:37.84 QT) - Freya Colbert, Katie Shanahan

 

Women's 4x100m Freestyle (3:36.40 QT) - Anna Hopkin, Freya Anderson, Lucy Hope, Abbie Wood, Evelyn Davies???

 

Women's 4x200m Freestyle (7:51.89 QT) - Freya Anderson, Freya Colbert, Abbie Wood, Lucy Hope, Medi Harris

 

Women's 4x100m Medley (3:56.89 QT) - Medi Harris, Angharad Evans, Harriet Jones, Anna Hopkin

 

Mixed 4x100m Medley (3:44.10 QT) - Medi Harris, Adam Peaty, James Guy, Anna Hopkin

 

 

Total - 14 Male + 17 Female (31)

 

Obviously some of these may be a stretch, but similarly there could be others who I have missed out, but I would expect the team to be around this number, maybe slightly higher depending on relay squads.

 

 

[Orangehair43 285]

1 hour ago, TeamGB said:

I hope, they change the team limit. They changed the selection criteria for last years worlds during the national champs so you never know.

 

In terms of the team, this is who I would predict to make it based on current form.

 

Men's 50m Freestyle - (21.88 QT) - Ben Proud, Lewis Burras

 

Men's 100m Freestyle - (48.06 QT) - Matt Richards, Lewis Burras

 

Men's 200m Freestyle - (1:45.96 QT) - Tom Dean, Matt Richards

 

Men's 400m Freestyle - (3:45.43 QT) - None

 

Men's 800m Freestyle - (7:47.81 QT) - Dan Jervis

 

Men's 1500m Freestyle - (14:54.29 QT) - Dan Jervis

 

Men's 100m Backstroke - (53.68 QT) - Oliver Morgan, Luke Greenbank

 

Men's 200m Backstroke - (1:57.28 QT) - Luke Greenbank, Oliver Morgan

 

Men's 100m Breaststroke - (59.45 QT) - Adam Peaty, James Wilby

 

Men's 200m Breaststroke - (2:08.29 QT) - James Wilby

 

Men's 100m Butterfly - (51.56 QT) - James Guy, Jacob Peters

 

Men's 200m Butterfly - (1:54.97 QT) - James Guy??

 

Men's 200m IM - (1:57.49 QT) - Duncan Scott, Tom Dean

 

Men's 400m IM - (4:11.90 QT) - Max Litchfield

 

Men's 4x100m Freestyle - (3:13.04 QT) - Tom Dean, Duncan Scott, Matt Richards, Lewis Burras, Jacob Whittle

 

Men's 4x200m Freestyle - (7:07.40 QT) - Tom Dean, Duncan Scott, Matt Richards, James Guy, Joe Litchfield

 

Men's 4x100m Medley - (3:33.15 QT) - Oliver Morgan, Adam Peaty, James Guy, Matt Richards.

 

Women's 50m Freestyle - (24.65 QT) - Anna Hopkin

 

Women's 100m Freestyle - (53.55 QT) - Anna Hopkin, Freya Anderson

 

Women's 200m Freestyle - (1:56.85 QT) - Freya Anderson, Freya Colbert

 

Women's 400m Freestyle - (4.04.98 QT) - None

 

Women's 800m Freestyle - (8:25.84 QT) - Amelie Blocksidge??

 

Women's 1500m Freestyle - (16:01.95 QT) - Amelie Blocksidge, Fleur Lewis??

 

Women's 100m Backstroke - (59.89 QT) - Medi Harris, Lauren Cox

 

Women's 200m Backstroke - (2:08.91 QT) - Katie Shanahan, Honey Osrin

 

Women's 100m Breaststroke - (1:06.31 QT) - Angharad Evans, Kara Hanlon??

 

Women's 200m Breaststroke - (2:23.04 QT) - Angharad Evans??

 

Women's 100m Butterfly - (57.17 QT) - None (This time is quicker than the national record)

 

Women's 200m Butterfly - (2:07.96 QT) - Laura Stephens, Emily Large

 

Women's 200m IM - (2:10.62 QT) - Abbie Wood, Katie Shanahan

 

Women's 400m IM - (4:37.84 QT) - Freya Colbert, Katie Shanahan

 

Women's 4x100m Freestyle (3:36.40 QT) - Anna Hopkin, Freya Anderson, Lucy Hope, Abbie Wood, Evelyn Davies???

 

Women's 4x200m Freestyle (7:51.89 QT) - Freya Anderson, Freya Colbert, Abbie Wood, Lucy Hope, Medi Harris

 

Women's 4x100m Medley (3:56.89 QT) - Medi Harris, Angharad Evans, Harriet Jones, Anna Hopkin

 

Mixed 4x100m Medley (3:44.10 QT) - Medi Harris, Adam Peaty, James Guy, Anna Hopkin

 

 

Total - 14 Male + 17 Female (31)

 

Obviously some of these may be a stretch, but similarly there could be others who I have missed out, but I would expect the team to be around this number, maybe slightly higher depending on relay squads.

 

 

Can they fit enough for all the relays within 30? I can see one of the women medley relay getting the boot if they need to cut one or two people.

 

Edited March 9, 2024 by Orangehair43