Speed Skating ISU World Cup 2023 - 2024

[NearPup 3,249]

  On 11/14/2023 at 2:38 AM, Olympian1010 said:

Maybe a format similar to the madison could work for long track? Skaters could either push or hand sling on exchanges over a longer distance points race.

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Oh over a distance longer than SIX (abridged because it's a mass start) LAPS maybe interesting tactics could come into play.

 

There was actually an arm sling this week-end, but that was because someone missed the proper handover (a push is just more effective).

[intoronto 5,886]

At one point the Madison was tested in short track and it has never returned 

[heywoodu 15,353]

  On 11/14/2023 at 2:38 AM, Olympian1010 said:

Maybe a format similar to the madison could work for long track? Skaters could either push or hand sling on exchanges over a longer distance points race.

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Or we just ditch all the new-fashioned nonsense altogether and have five individual distances, like we had for decades and was always more than fine  

 

Team pursuit is okay...ish. Team sprint, meh. The current mass start format is still just nonsense and maybe at best 20% of the distance a real mass start race should be, mixed events just don't work well at all. Nah, 500, 1000, 1500, 3000/5000 and 5000/10000 are more than fine.

Edited November 14, 2023 by heywoodu

[heywoodu 15,353]

This weekend it's Beijing time and in terms of entry lists we went back to normal: they were already there on Wednesday, as used to be the case but wasn't for Obihiro. Now the draws are there as well for tomorrow, with the main thing being Olympic 500m champion Gao Tingyu being back in competition for the first time since he took gold in the Olympics almost two years ago.

https://live.isuresults.eu/events/2024_CHN_0001/schedule

[Josh 11,107]

Speed Skating World Cup Beijing, China

 

Day 1

 

Women’s 1500m

Gold-  Miho Takagi (1:55.52)

Silver-  Mei Han (1:55.92)

Bronze- Qishi Li (1:57.01)

 

Men’s 500m

Gold-  Wataru Morishige (34.72)

Silver-  Yuma Murakami (34.82)

Bronze-  Junho Kim (35.00)

 

Women’s 500m

Gold-  Erin Jackson (37.91)

Silver-  Kimi Goetz (37.92)

Bronze-  Minsun Kim (38.00)

 

Men’s 1500m

Gold-  Kjeld Nuis (1:44.80)

Silver-  Patrick Roest (1:45.36)

Bronze-  Zhongyan Ning (1:45.51)

 

Full Results

 

Terrible start to the WC season for Canada, only two podiums (1 gold, 1 silver) so far, and a very disappointing silver last week in Obihiro in the women’s team pursuit (hadn’t lost a race since before the pandemic) 

Edited November 18, 2023 by Josh

[NearPup 3,249]

  On 11/17/2023 at 9:09 PM, Josh said:

 

Terrible start to the WC season for Canada, only two podiums (1 gold, 1 silver) so far, and a very disappointing silver last week in Obihiro in the women’s team pursuit (hadn’t lost a race since before the pandemic) 

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There was certainly a lot of luck involved there re: the Olympic final.

 

But ya, it's not been a promissing season so far.

[Josh 11,107]

Can’t find a thread that suits what I have to say, so I’ll just post it here. From now on I’ll be updating all winter sport results (if I have time) in the following sports: curling (slams and any major events ex. European Championships), bobsleigh/skeleton/luge, speed skating, freestyle skiing, and snowboarding. 

 

I know that @hckošice does alpine skiing, ski jumping, and hockey, @phelps does ski mountaineering,@maestro does figure skating, and @Dennis does short track speed skating. Can anyone do biathlon, cross country skiing, and nordic combined?

[heywoodu 15,353]

Jutta Leerdam has been beaten in the 1000m for the first time since she took Olympic silver in Beijing almost two years ago. Both Miho Takagi and Kimi Goetz were faster today.

https://live.isuresults.eu/events/2024_CHN_0001/competition/13/results

 

Later today it's the men's 5k, with a fantastic draw: Sander Eitrem vs Davide Ghiotto  could be a truly epic race to watch, both are excellent riders who get even way more excellent when they've got a straight-up fight.

Edited November 18, 2023 by heywoodu

[phelps 7,846]

  On 11/18/2023 at 9:48 AM, heywoodu said:

Jutta Leerdam has been beaten in the 1000m for the first time since she took Olympic silver in Beijing almost two years ago. Both Miho Takagi and Kimi Goetz were faster today.

https://live.isuresults.eu/events/2024_CHN_0001/competition/13/results

 

Later today it's the men's 5k, with a fantastic draw: Sander Eitrem vs Davide Ghiotto  could be a truly epic race to watch, both are excellent riders who get even way more excellent when they've got a straight-up fight.

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I'm in mourning...

 

I'm already KO because of a flu, and now this (and the women's DH cancelled)...definitely not my best weekend 

 

p.s. let's hope that Eitrem vs Ghiotto doesn't end up like in last season's world cup final 

[heywoodu 15,353]

By the way, like last weekend it seems there are no live speeds and time gaps being shown...finally, not having that improves the viewing experience a lot