Roamingrover86 582 Posted September 30, 2023 #361 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Vic Liu said: The North Korean 49kg weightlifter just appear out of nowhere, take the gold and break the WR. I think other categories may also repeat this fantasy. Not sure how IWF and IOC will handle their Olympics qualification. From my point of view, they are not constantly attending requiring tournaments and not being timely monitored doping status. So according to the qualification document, they should not be granted quotas. They can’t qualify as per IWF rule book. They didn’t participate in the mandatory world championships , so are not eligible fir quota places. rafalgorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,986 Posted September 30, 2023 #362 Share Posted September 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Roamingrover86 said: They can’t qualify as per IWF rule book. They didn’t participate in the mandatory world championships , so are not eligible fir quota places. We all know that the IOC are going to make an exception here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,439 Posted September 30, 2023 #363 Share Posted September 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Grassmarket said: We all know that the IOC are going to make an exception here. no, they won't the only exceptions will be made for Russians and Belarussians in those disciplines that have only a long Oltympic Qualification Period they couldn't attend for a long while to no favours to as they're excluding themselves from the international scene by their own decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff88 1,766 Posted September 30, 2023 #364 Share Posted September 30, 2023 But for the athletes, competing in Paris 2024 doesn't really matter... Chinese weightlifters, beware. They have been locked out for 3 years and now all they're hungry for a new apartment unit in Pyongyang Saatvik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,986 Posted September 30, 2023 #365 Share Posted September 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, phelps said: no, they won't the only exceptions will be made for Russians and Belarussians in those disciplines that have only a long Oltympic Qualification Period they couldn't attend for a long while to no favours to as they're excluding themselves from the international scene by their own decision I disagree, the desire of Thomas Bacholympicchampionfencing1976 to appear as the International Champion of Peace will always win over any so-called rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roamingrover86 582 Posted September 30, 2023 #366 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) Boxing Olympics Quotas Women’s Boxing (54KG) 4 Quotas & Edited September 30, 2023 by Roamingrover86 Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,379 Posted September 30, 2023 #367 Share Posted September 30, 2023 We have reached the half-way point of the Asian Games. Let's see which nations are performing better/worse relative to 2018. Here's a medal table comparison between events which were held in both 2018 and 2022 (including esports). Unsurprisingly, China as host nation is doing better relative to 2018. Most of this is due to their performance in swimming where they gained 8 total medals. On the opposite end, Japan's poor performance in the pool (-22 medals relative to 2018) is the reason they are on the bottom. Previous host Indonesia is down 10 medals while Thailand, Mongolia, Kazakhstan and Chinese Taipei are also down. Uzbekistan has had a great games so far. Recently they have been courting ex-Russian athletes which has only hasten since the war began. Hong Kong, Malaysia and the United Arab Emirates have seen some decent gains too. 2022 2018 Total Diff Gold Silver Bronze Total Gold Silver Bronze Total China 97 57 30 184 78 50 37 165 19 Uzbekistan 9 9 14 32 7 7 8 22 10 Hong Kong 5 13 17 35 7 11 11 29 6 Malaysia 3 3 11 17 2 4 5 11 6 United Arab Emirates 1 1 4 6 0 0 2 2 4 Philippines 1 1 6 8 1 1 3 5 3 Turkmenistan 0 1 2 3 0 0 0 0 3 Laos 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 2 Saudi Arabia 1 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 2 Brunei 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 Iran 2 10 11 23 5 11 6 22 1 Iraq 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 Kuwait 1 0 1 2 1 0 0 1 1 Oman 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 Pakistan 0 1 1 2 0 0 1 1 1 Tajikistan 1 1 2 4 0 1 2 3 1 Afghanistan 0 0 2 2 0 0 2 2 0 Bahrain 3 1 2 6 3 1 2 6 0 Macau 1 0 2 3 1 1 1 3 0 Jordan 0 2 1 3 1 0 3 4 -1 Kyrgyzstan 1 0 1 2 1 0 2 3 -1 Lebanon 0 0 1 1 0 0 2 2 -1 North Korea 2 4 3 9 2 4 4 10 -1 Qatar 1 1 1 3 3 1 0 4 -1 Vietnam 1 2 8 11 0 4 8 12 -1 Myanmar 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 -2 Singapore 1 3 3 7 3 1 5 9 -2 India 5 9 11 25 4 8 16 28 -3 South Korea 22 25 43 90 22 38 33 93 -3 Chinese Taipei 5 7 7 19 5 5 13 23 -4 Kazakhstan 0 2 19 21 2 4 19 25 -4 Mongolia 0 2 4 6 1 3 6 10 -4 Thailand 5 2 9 16 5 2 14 21 -5 Indonesia 3 3 6 12 3 8 11 22 -10 Japan 27 36 36 99 43 35 41 119 -20 Josh, Topicmaster1010, Vic Liu and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,379 Posted September 30, 2023 #368 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Let's take a look at who has benefited the most from the new (as in events not in 2018) events. In total 42 events have so far taken place that weren't in 2018. Gold Silver Bronze Total China 17 11 4 32 India 5 5 3 13 South Korea 5 4 10 19 North Korea 3 3 1 7 Thailand 3 2 5 10 Kazakhstan 3 2 0 5 Chinese Taipei 2 2 2 6 Japan 1 2 2 5 Uzbekistan 1 2 2 5 Singapore 1 2 1 4 Iran 1 1 0 2 Hong Kong 0 2 1 3 Qatar 0 1 1 2 Kuwait 0 1 0 1 Macau 0 1 0 1 Sri Lanka 0 1 0 1 Indonesia 0 0 4 4 Vietnam 0 0 4 4 Afghanistan 0 0 1 1 Bangladesh 0 0 1 1 Kyrgyzstan 0 0 1 1 Malaysia 0 0 1 1 Mongolia 0 0 1 1 China tops the table, but India, South Korea and Thailand all had double digit medal gain. Does that mean China is stacking the event? Not really, China is by far the strongest nation so it's expected they would have the most medals. From a percentage point of view, the medals from the new events account for 16.4% of the total medals yet China's medals from the new event only account for 14.8% of their total medals so they are at around pace. The biggest beneficiary of nations with more than 10 medals is North Korea whose new events account for 43.8% of their medal total. In their defense, the weightlifting medals are considered new events since the weight classes have changed, if we exclude those their share drops to 25%. After that nations benefiting the most are Thailand (38.5%), Singapore (36.4%), and India (34.2%). For Thailand and Singapore they mostly benefited from the sailing program while for India they benefited from the addition of team events in shooting. The nations which benefited the least from the new events were Japan (4.8%), Malaysia (5.6%), Hong Kong (7.9%) and Iran (8.0%). Josh, Griff88 and Roamingrover86 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh 7,898 Posted October 1, 2023 #369 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Any links for live streams? The one @Griff88 sent doesn’t work anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dullard 584 Posted October 1, 2023 #370 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Josh said: Any links for live streams? The one @Griff88 sent doesn’t work anymore This still works for me: https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/2347-asian-games-2022/?do=findComment&comment=584704 Edited October 1, 2023 by dullard Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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