[OFF TOPIC] Coronavirus Pandemic

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  On 4/7/2020 at 8:56 PM, OlympicIRL said:

I think though a lot of countries are buying time if that’s possible. There might be another wave coming but hopefully there can be advances in terms of treatment, knowledge of the virus, more preparedness and eventually a vaccine. Maybe they will run out of time before another wave hits but I think it’s worth taking this chance than just doing nothing or too little in the first place.

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Of course, but the best way to fight this virus is to have a steady infection rate. If we kept the pace of infraction steady, we will slow it’s spread and build up herd immunity. This is sort of what the Netherlands is doing, and I really like the way they are fighting the virus. 

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  On 4/8/2020 at 12:14 AM, VolleyRuller96 said:

Nearly 1,5 million cases worldwide and almost 1/3rd is in the USA

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Well yeah, our response has been terrible. California is doing the best by most accounts. We’re very close to the Dutch model. Life isn’t actually that different in California for most people. Most people are still doing work, while at home. We’ve made great strides in isolating our at risk groups. Plus, the virus is spreading a natural rate, which is a good thing.

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  On 4/7/2020 at 3:20 PM, Fly_like_a_don said:

Yeah agreed totally.

 

@up and down thanks for the info.

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Glad to be able to provide the information.

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  On 4/7/2020 at 6:37 PM, nitinsanker said:

Trump continues to find new enemies!! 

 

The WHO really blew it," the president wrote on twitter, "For some reason, funded largely by the United States, yet very China centric. We will be giving that a good look. Fortunately I rejected their advice on keeping our borders open to China early on. Why did they give us such a faulty recommendation?"

 

 

India has banned the export of a drun hydroxychloroquine because we need it for our own response 

 

Trump also warned of retaliation if India did not take up his request to lift the hold on US orders of the antimalarial drug.

“I said we’d appreciate you allowing our supply to come out. If he doesn’t allow it to come out, that would be okay but, of course, there may be retaliation,” Trump said. “Why wouldn’t that be?”.

 

 

this man is so very obnoxious

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Can’t believe it but Trump isn’t wrong here. Conduct of WHO has not been upto the mark. 
 

Also, he has to try and source HCQ from any source possible. “Saam, daam, dand, bhed”. 

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  On 4/7/2020 at 8:24 PM, Olympian1010 said:

The issue is that the disease is going to spread (and it’s actually better if it spreads now (though more gradually would be ideal). So I think France, UK, and US are somewhat in the right here. I actually think countries like Slovakia are setting themselves up for colossal outbreaks later on. Of course that all comes down to when a vaccine is developed, and how long it take the disease to progress. 

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You do know that France, UK, USA and Netherlands have among the worst deaths per capita rates right?

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  On 4/8/2020 at 3:18 AM, Dolby said:

Can’t believe it but Trump isn’t wrong here. Conduct of WHO has not been upto the mark. 
 

Also, he has to try and source HCQ from any source possible. “Saam, daam, dand, bhed”. 

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Well WHO is supposed to be a neutral organization. They were highly criticized for their behavior during the Swine Flu outbreak in 2009. They acted on the side of extreme caution this time, so as not to rock the boat of international politics again.

 

If China is giving information to WHO, they’ve somewhat beholden to that information. They can launch their own investigation, but I don’t think that’d fly in China. 

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  On 4/8/2020 at 3:20 AM, Dolby said:

You do know that France, UK, USA and Netherlands have among the worst deaths per capita rates right?

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But we probably won’t have to deal with this disease again since it will be so widespread. 

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Trump has announced the US will stop funding WHO...

 

It’s beginning to take everything in my soul not to wish ill on the orange idiot.

 

Just to recap, in his time as President, Trump has: pulled the US out of the Paris Climate Accords, banned people from 14 countries from entering the US, presumably broken the law on more than one occasion, threatened (but so hasn’t) to pull the US out of NATO, chosen to continuously battle with our closer allies, and now has decided to stop help funding WHO (which will only punish us in the long run).

 

Supposedly Trump has a good amount of stock in that malaria drug, which would actually makes a lot of sense at this point (horrifyingly).

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  On 4/8/2020 at 4:02 AM, Olympian1010 said:

Trump has announced the US will stop funding WHO...

 

It’s beginning to take everything in my soul not to wish ill on the orange idiot.

 

Just to recap, in his time as President, Trump has: pulled the US out of the Paris Climate Accords, banned people from 14 countries from entering the US, presumably broken the law on more than one occasion, threatened (but so hasn’t) to pull the US out of NATO, chosen to continuously battle with our closer allies, and now has decided to stop help funding WHO (which will only punish us in the long run).

 

Supposedly Trump has a good amount of stock in that malaria drug, which would actually makes a lot of sense at this point (horrifyingly).

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My good guess here is that the whole world might just be laughing off whatever Trump has said or did throughout this tenure as the president. Honestly speaking all the different leaders in the world must be thinking this is the most insane US president they have seen making no sense and lots of U-turns all the time.

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A very interestting article.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/americans-are-paying-the-price-for-trumps-failures/609532/

 

This Is Trump’s Fault
The president is failing, and Americans are paying for his failures.

 

The article itself is extremely long. Here is the excerpts from the article above.

 

" I don’t take responsibility at all,” said President Donald Trump in the Rose Garden on March 13. Those words will probably end up as the epitaph of his presidency, the single sentence that sums it all up.

 

Trump now fancies himself a “wartime president.” How is his war going? By the end of March, the coronavirus had killed more Americans than the 9/11 attacks. By the first weekend in April, the virus had killed more Americans than any single battle of the Civil War. By Easter, it may have killed more Americans than the Korean War. On the present trajectory, it will kill, by late April, more Americans than Vietnam. Having earlier promised that casualties could be held near zero, Trump now claims he will have done a “very good job” if the toll is held below 200,000 dead.

 

The United States is on trajectory to suffer more sickness, more dying, and more economic harm from this virus than any other comparably developed country.

 

 

That the pandemic occurred is not Trump’s fault. The utter unpreparedness of the United States for a pandemic is Trump’s fault. The loss of stockpiled respirators to breakage because the federal government let maintenance contracts lapse in 2018 is Trump’s fault. The failure to store sufficient protective medical gear in the national arsenal is Trump’s fault. That states are bidding against other states for equipment, paying many multiples of the precrisis price for ventilators, is Trump’s fault. Air travelers summoned home and forced to stand for hours in dense airport crowds alongside infected people? That was Trump’s fault too. Ten weeks of insisting that the coronavirus is a harmless flu that would miraculously go away on its own? Trump’s fault again. The refusal of red-state governors to act promptly, the failure to close Florida and Gulf Coast beaches until late March? That fault is more widely shared, but again, responsibility rests with Trump: He could have stopped it, and he did not.

 

 

The lying about the coronavirus by hosts on Fox News and conservative talk radio is Trump’s fault: They did it to protect him. The false hope of instant cures and nonexistent vaccines is Trump’s fault, because he told those lies to cover up his failure to act in time. The severity of the economic crisis is Trump’s fault; things would have been less bad if he had acted faster instead of sending out his chief economic adviser and his son Eric to assure Americans that the first stock-market dips were buying opportunities. The firing of a Navy captain for speaking truthfully about the virus’s threat to his crew? Trump’s fault. The fact that so many key government jobs were either empty or filled by mediocrities? Trump’s fault. The insertion of Trump’s arrogant and incompetent son-in-law as commander in chief of the national medical supply chain? Trump’s fault.

 

For three years, Trump has blathered and bluffed and bullied his way through an office for which he is utterly inadequate. But sooner or later, every president must face a supreme test, a test that cannot be evaded by blather and bluff and bullying. That test has overwhelmed Trump.

Trump failed. He is failing. He will continue to fail. And Americans are paying for his failures.

Edited April 8, 2020 by up and down