Dolby 735 Posted July 18, 2016 #11 Share Posted July 18, 2016 3 hours ago, dcro said: Wow, they are allowed to make changes and thus kick out Lithuanian player less than 20 days before Rio? China had 3 pairs in top 8 in WD. BWF assumed that China would chose top 2 pairs resulting in Zhao Yunlei being selected in two events, which would create an additional quota in WS, which was allocated to Lithuania. This quota was always conditional as can be seen by the official BWF document quoted below: Quote If an athlete qualifies (and is selected) in more than one (1) event, then the unused athlete quota place will be allocated to the next best ranked athlete of the same gender in the singles event on the World Ranking Lists of 5 May 2016. The offer of this Quota Place will however be conditional on the athlete who is qualified in more than one (1) events being confirmed and entered by his/her NOC in the Rio 2016 Olympic Games. China had to confirm that it will use two quotas in WD by May 31 and announce its team by 18 July. China never said that it will select Zhao/Tian. China didn't make any change. Though sad for Lithuanian player, she must have been prepared for this. And blaming China (or BWF) for this is simply wrong. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/230-badminton-at-the-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/2/#findComment-32397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearas 522 Posted July 18, 2016 #12 Share Posted July 18, 2016 4 hours ago, Griff88 said: Chinese team has confirmed their badminton squad: MS: Chen Long, Lin Dan WS: Li Xuerui, Wang Yihan MD: Fu Haifeng/Zhang Nan, Chai Biao/Hong Wei WD: Luo Ying/Luo Yu, Yu Yang/Tang Yuanting XD: Zhang Nan/Zhao Yunlei, Xu Chen/Ma Jin With the Luo twins selected, it means Tian Qing must stay at home. Plus, one WS quota is abolished (because Zhao Yunlei only play in XD) which means Akvile Stapusaityte won't be competing at the Olympics Source: http://www.badzine.net/2016/07/race-to-rio-luo-twins-in-tian-and-akvile-out/ Wow. Unexpected and cruel. BWF should not inform federations that they have a quota if it is only conditional and can be taken away 20 days before. Poor Akvilė. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/230-badminton-at-the-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/2/#findComment-32408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff88 1,968 Posted July 22, 2016 Author #13 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Seeded players now available Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/230-badminton-at-the-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/2/#findComment-33309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanHero40 216 Posted July 22, 2016 #14 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Anyone knows the tie break procedures of the round robin groups? cant find it anywhere Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/230-badminton-at-the-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/2/#findComment-33486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 5,768 Posted July 22, 2016 #15 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Maxim Fastovsky said: Anyone knows the tie break procedures of the round robin groups? cant find it anywhere When two (2) players are tied in the same group, the winner of the match between them will be ranked higher. If three (3) players are tied within a group, their positions will be determined by the difference between games won and games lost. If three (3) players are still tied after this has been taken into account, their positions will be determined by the difference between total points won and total points lost. If, after one (1) or more of these tiebreakers, only two (2) players are tied, the winner of the match between them will qualify. If, after both tiebreakers, all three (3) players are still tied, their positions will be then determined by drawing lots. Source Edited July 22, 2016 by intoronto Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/230-badminton-at-the-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/2/#findComment-33493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanHero40 216 Posted July 22, 2016 #16 Share Posted July 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, intoronto said: When two (2) players are tied in the same group, the winner of the match between them will be ranked higher. If three (3) players are tied within a group, their positions will be determined by the difference between games won and games lost. If three (3) players are still tied after this has been taken into account, their positions will be determined by the difference between total points won and total points lost. If, after one (1) or more of these tiebreakers, only two (2) players are tied, the winner of the match between them will qualify. If, after both tiebreakers, all three (3) players are still tied, their positions will be then determined by drawing lots. hmm, so i'm confused, this is a group from london, 3 way tie number 1 and 2 have game difference of 2 but the point difference is better with the chinese... yet they are second Standings of WD - Group D Points Played Matches Games Points 1 Christinna PedersenKamilla Rytter Juhl 2 3 2 - 1 5 - 3 151 - 144 2 Qing TianYunlei Zhao 2 3 2 - 1 4 - 2 116 - 99 3 Miyuki MaedaSatoko Suetsuna 2 3 2 - 1 4 - 3 135 - 128 4 Lok Yan PoonYing Suet Tse 0 3 0 - 3 1 - 6 109 - 140 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/230-badminton-at-the-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/2/#findComment-33494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted July 22, 2016 #17 Share Posted July 22, 2016 This group system is a mess really. Some group have 2 athletes, some 3. The only thing that I like about group system is that it allows weaker athletes to do more than one match, so their Olympic experience is longer. #banbestmen Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/230-badminton-at-the-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/2/#findComment-33516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolby 735 Posted July 22, 2016 #18 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Maxim Fastovsky said: hmm, so i'm confused, this is a group from london, 3 way tie number 1 and 2 have game difference of 2 but the point difference is better with the chinese... yet they are second Standings of WD - Group D Points Played Matches Games Points 1 Christinna PedersenKamilla Rytter Juhl 2 3 2 - 1 5 - 3 151 - 144 2 Qing TianYunlei Zhao 2 3 2 - 1 4 - 2 116 - 99 3 Miyuki MaedaSatoko Suetsuna 2 3 2 - 1 4 - 3 135 - 128 4 Lok Yan PoonYing Suet Tse 0 3 0 - 3 1 - 6 109 - 140 Since, three teams are tied at 2 points each, first tie break is applied (Set score). Danes and Chinese have +2 set score and Japanese have +1 set score. At this stage, Japanese are eliminated as they have the worst set score. Now, only 2 teams are left tied. Hence, H2H is used as tie-break. Danes defeated Chinese in their match and hence are ranked higher. P.S. It was this second position in group for Chinese team that led to comical matches and eventual disqualification of 4 teams and an unexpected and lucky bronze for Russians AmericanHero40 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/230-badminton-at-the-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/2/#findComment-33523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinipereira 3,411 Posted July 26, 2016 #19 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/230-badminton-at-the-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/2/#findComment-34689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agger 1,664 Posted July 26, 2016 #20 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Some good and some bad draws. Easy group for Jan, but he will have to beat Lin Dan to get a medal. Tougher group for Viktor. Would say that's the toughest in the men's singles. But if he makes it through as first, he has a very decent way to a semi final. For Line it'll be tough. She has been capable of challenging Marin, but it should be an easy group win for Marin. Tough for the XD as well. It could end up as a struggle for the WD. Their 2nd by the rankings, but the Chinese pair will be a challenge as well. Meanwhile it's close to a dream group for the MD. They have a pretty good record against the korean pair and the other 2 should surely be beatable, though it's of course a question of wheter Mogensen is back in top shape. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/230-badminton-at-the-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/2/#findComment-34816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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