Athletics WA World Championships 2023

[phelps 7,066]

1 hour ago, Monzanator said:

(...) Compared to the early 1990s when I started watching athletics Germany has regressed the most out of European countries (followed by France). Meanwhile countries like Netherlands and Italy are maximizing their chances and winning more medals than expected.

where? when? 

 

and please, don't tell me "in Tokyo", as it was just an exception, when we had 3 medal candidates and we came home with 5 gold medals (and only in athletics, because in the other sports we didn't maximize anything also in those "happy days" of 2021)

Edited August 21, 2023 by phelps

[heywoodu 13,623]

I love how everyone from every country always feels like their country is performing badly. Which is just impossible, because if every country performs badly, we're going to be left with medals that aren't won by anyone  

[hckošice 13,326]

6 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I love how everyone from every country always feels like their country is performing badly. Which is just impossible, because if every country performs badly, we're going to be left with medals that aren't won by anyone  

why so ?

 

for instance, pretty proud that  is after 2 days of competition tied in the medal table with powerhouses like France or Germany

[Vektor 3,196]

10 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I love how everyone from every country always feels like their country is performing badly. Which is just impossible, because if every country performs badly, we're going to be left with medals that aren't won by anyone  

Well, I am personally not complaining. We got our medal here. We have won 3 gold medals in fencing, 1 in sailing, 1 in swimming, 1 in water polo, 1 in taekwondo and at least one more should be coming up in canoe sprint this year at the Worlds if not more. We are overperforming before Paris in terms of gold medals and Milák isn't even competing. If we would repeat this with Milák also coming back, that would be a 10+ gold medal performance from Hungary in Paris. I hope we aren't setting up ourselves for a disappointment, this year has been "too good to be true" one year before Paris. 

Edited August 21, 2023 by Vektor

[phelps 7,066]

11 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I love how everyone from every country always feels like their country is performing badly. Which is just impossible, because if every country performs badly, we're going to be left with medals that aren't won by anyone  

I'm not saying "performing badly", but still, I can't hear words like "overperforming" and getting "more medals than expected"...

 

with a couple of notable exceptions, it's not true at all...actually, it's the opposite (which, again, doesn't necessarily mean "underperform badly", it's just "not as good as many thought")

Edited August 21, 2023 by phelps

[hckošice 13,326]

9 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I love how everyone from every country always feels like their country is performing badly. Which is just impossible, because if every country performs badly, we're going to be left with medals that aren't won by anyone  

Anyway,

 

small off-topic other sport "spoiler"

 

Congrats for your first hockey (yeah, the real one) win over in history.

[phelps 7,066]

1 minute ago, phelps said:

I'm not saying "performing badly", but still, I can't hear words like "overperforming" and getting "more medals than expected"...

 

with a couple of notable exceptions, it's not true at all...actually, it's the opposite (which, again, doesn't necessarily mean "underperform badly", it's just "not as good as many thought")

in the specific case of this championship, in Italy there were no big expectations, but still Stano and/or Fortunato in the men's 20km are at least a missing medal

 

Palmisano instead got an expected medal (despite all of her injuries, she's way better than any other active specialist and she's always asked to win, also when she's not at 100%)

 

on the other hand, Fabbri won an unexpected silver in the men's shot put (but Weir had troubles when he was expected to fight for the medals), meanwhile Iapichino is definitely the biggest disappointment so far...she should have won at least silver (and she was clearly expected way over 7 meters)

 

in the 1500m, we expected Arese to make the men's final (and nothing more, tbh) and he didn't, but we got Cavalli in the women's final, which is probably one of the biggest surprises of the championship so far

 

Osakue and Ihemeje are in their respective final, which was their initial target...we'll see how they go, but a top 8 placing would be already a great achievement

 

up to you to decide if this is beyond expectations, a fair balance or "underperforming"...

[Noorderling29 128]

3 hours ago, AsensioWillemsen said:

Does the NOS show field events?

If there’s time left between the races and the irritating conversations with mr. Sedoc.

[bestmen 2,590]

They start during the night , very bad schedule/organization ...especially for pole vault and discus , this is a compete of sport not a darkness party 

[bestmen 2,590]

The final of 100m at 22h when everybody already went to sleep  why dont you do it at 00h  when wolfs appear