Summer Olympic Games 2024 & 2028 Bid Process

[Bohemia 1,439]

  On 7/11/2017 at 5:17 PM, dcro said:

Main talk today seemed to be about technicalities actually. Whether this can be done without changing the Olympic charter and what would the "Swiss lawyers" say about that. interestingly, 1924 and 1928 Olympic were also jointly awarded!

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Wow I didn't know this! I thought it was the first time it happened

[Federer91 2,902]

They should never award more than one Games at a single campaign. But they would, it's known since last year, so yeah...

[Agger 1,664]

  On 7/11/2017 at 6:19 PM, Federer91 said:

They should never award more than one Games at a single campaign. But they would, it's known since last year, so yeah...

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I'm sorry, but I see it as the absolutely right decision. It gives the necessary time to consider what to do now. We're in a bit of a crisis when it comes to bidding.

[dcro 10,210]

It can be awarded in case of exceptional circumstance. Every IOC member agreeing about it is indeed an exceptional circumstance.

Edited July 11, 2017 by dcro

[Dmitry 92]

Cities which maybe would like to try 2028 bid acoording to the IOC rules now even will not have a chance. Just because IOC changed their rules after the point, when the game started. IOC broke fair play rules. But nothing new.

[dcro 10,210]

  On 7/11/2017 at 7:38 PM, Dmitry said:

Cities which maybe would like to try 2028 bid acoording to the IOC rules now even will not have a chance. Just because IOC changed their rules after the point, when the game started. IOC broke fair play rules. But nothing new.

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And yet someone like Isinbayeva very much agreed with the proposal in her speech.

 

Assuming that Paris would win 2024 alone, who would enter 2028 bidding (besides probably USA)? Australia already said they don't plan to bid any time soon. Africa/South America (and other developing nations) are definitely not encouraged after Rio. Asia hosted a lot of them recently. So that leaves North America vs Europe (European chances would be diminished after Paris 2024, and yet you would very likely once again have a lot of cancelled European bids, like Italy who pulled out from both 2020 and 2024...). Situation in Europe is so bad that no one wanted to host 2022 Winter Olympics. They really just needed to enter and they would certainly beat the Asian bids, practically guaranteed victory for any remotely serious bid.

 

They didn't break the rules btw.

Edited July 11, 2017 by dcro

[Dmitry 92]

  On 7/11/2017 at 7:47 PM, dcro said:

 

And yet someone like Isinbayeva very much agreed with the proposal in her speech.

 

Assuming that Paris would win 2024 alone, who would enter 2028 bidding (besides probably USA)? Australia already said they don't plan to bid any time soon. Africa/South America (and other developing nations) are definitely not encouraged after Rio. Asia hosted a lot of them recently. So that leaves North America vs Europe (European chances would be diminished after Paris 2024, and yet you would very likely once again have a lot of cancelled European bids, like Italy who pulled out from both 2020 and 2024...). Situation in Europe is so bad that no one wanted to host 2022 Winter Olympics. They really just needed to enter and they would certainly beat the Asian bids, practically guaranteed victory for any remotely serious bid.

 

They didn't break the rules btw.

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That's not about she or somebody else said or about cities which will have Olympics. That's about the equal chance for everybody what they always promote.

 

Cities which maybe would like to bid 2028 Olympics were waiting to the start of the company like it have to be. Nobody really knows what will be (even if you will have only one bid for 2028 you can take your decision in the normal way). But what IOC decision looks like: "Cities, sorry, you were waiting in vain. Forget about your bidding for 2028. Now we don't care about how it had to work. You had to try 2024 bidding for being in 2028 battle. And we don't care about that we didn't say this previously".

 

And the most funny thing is "exceptional circumstances". I think in general exceptional circumstances are hurricane, tsunami or something like this.

 

IOC worked too bad last decades with how Olympics should be in the modern world and now almost no city will not bid for them. But IOC prefer to call this like "exceptional circumstances".

Edited July 11, 2017 by Dmitry

[LDOG 2,428]

Which cities were waiting to bid for 2028 though?

[dcro 10,210]

  On 7/11/2017 at 8:55 PM, Dmitry said:

And the most funny thing is "exceptional circumstances". I think in general exceptional circumstances are hurricane, tsunami or something like this.

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How can hurricane or tsunami force IOC to award games prematurely? That has nothing to do about this, exceptional circumstance is about current climate in Olympic movement. As Agger said, this is an opportunity to re-evaluate the bidding in general. They were talking about changing Olympic charter and saying that Games can be awarded early if an IOC session decides to do so, but the general consensus was that having a full agreement about this was an exceptional circumstance. They wouldn't agree on this every time.

 

Besides, with this decision we will have a rare occurrence that 4 different continents will host 4 consecutive Olympics. I fail to see how all this can be a bad thing. Sure, somebody may have missed a chance, but the potential candidates for 2028 mostly included those who pulled out on this and/or some previous occassion (like Germany, Italy, Hungary...). Who's to say they wouldn't drop out again?

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[dcro 10,210]

  On 7/11/2017 at 9:04 PM, LDOG said:

Which cities were waiting to bid for 2028 though?

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Here's something, though a lot of them seemed to be a pure speculation. Like Australia who denied any possibility later on.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2028_Summer_Olympics&oldid=783206058