Rowing WR World Championships 2023

[Rafa Maciel 1,606]

  On 9/1/2023 at 5:20 PM, Grassmarket said:

And of course the IOC are going to take the $$$$ rather than defend the integrity of the sport.  

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It is going to be interesting to see how the crews adapt to the shorter course - so many of them use the 3rd 500 to establish themselves in the race.

[Olympian1010 8,072]

  On 9/1/2023 at 5:20 PM, Grassmarket said:

And of course the IOC are going to take the $$$$ rather than defend the integrity of the sport.  

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Water isn’t a sure thing in Southern California. The Long Beach Marine Stadium is really the only traditional spot for rowing in Los Angeles. Long Beach could remove the bridge, but that would negatively impact residents in the area. I think reducing the distance ultimately became the best compromise.

 

There’s also a possibility Oklahoma City will be called in to host canoe slalom at the national whitewater center.

Edited September 1, 2023 by Olympian1010

[Grassmarket 3,618]

  On 9/1/2023 at 5:37 PM, Olympian1010 said:

Water isn’t a sure thing in Southern California. The Long Beach Marine Stadium is really the only traditional spot for rowing in Los Angeles. Long Beach remove the bridge, but that would negatively impact residents in the area. I think reducing the distance ultimately became the best compromise.

 

There’s also a possibility Oklahoma City will be called in to host canoe slalom at the national whitewater center.

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Or you could go to Lake Tahoe, which has a lake.  Plus a house owned by my brother, just sayin’.

Edited September 1, 2023 by Grassmarket

[Olympian1010 8,072]

  On 9/1/2023 at 5:39 PM, Grassmarket said:

Or you could go to Lake Tahoe, which has a lake.  Plus a house owned by my brother, just sayin’.

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I certainly don’t need any excuses to travel to Lake Tahoe. I don’t spend nearly enough time in the Sierras.

[phelps 7,817]

  On 9/1/2023 at 7:35 AM, Fly_like_a_don said:

Rowing has to be one of the least competitive sports to be part of Olympics. Europeans might not like it but yeah it should be cut down to just 4 or 5 events per gender.  Surely over 100 non Olympic sports exist which have a more competitive field than rowing. 

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you already tried this game with swimming (and you were shown how you were wrong)...

 

retry, you'll be luckier 

[phelps 7,817]

  On 9/1/2023 at 1:59 PM, Rafa Maciel said:

Think I read somewhere that the course for LA2028 is only going to be 1500m 

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because they want to use the iconic Long Beach Marina and not the place that was chosen when they presented their bid

 

if IOC and World rowing were serious institutions, they would have recalled the arrogant LA organizers to stay with the original plan 

 

same for the Slalom Canoeing Center in Oklahoma City rather than in the LA area

[phelps 7,817]

  On 9/1/2023 at 5:39 PM, Grassmarket said:

Or you could go to Lake Tahoe, which has a lake.  Plus a house owned by my brother, just sayin’.

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why travelling so far?

 

they have a couple of suitable lakes close to the big town, one is Lake Casitas (used for the 1984 Olympics), the other (sorry, I don't remember the exact name right now without searching for it) was the place named for the 2028 Olympics in the candidature file

 

they have just to stop whining and build a small athletes' village there and have the regatta in a proper location

[Olympian1010 8,072]

  On 9/1/2023 at 7:17 PM, phelps said:

they have a couple of suitable lakes close to the big town, one is Lake Casitas (used for the 1984 Olympics), the other (sorry, I don't remember the exact name right now without searching for it) was the place named for the 2028 Olympics in the candidature file

 

they have just to stop whining and build a small athletes' village there and have the regatta in a proper location

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Castaic Lake isn’t really ideal. It’s just a dam, and it got pretty low during the bad drought years. I believe it has recovered much water volume with the unusually wet year we’ve had, but other concerns persist.

 

Lake Perris was the venue originally proposed. It was just far away from other venue clusters, not to mention that lake faces similar pressures when it comes to drought. It would also likely require residential facilities to be constructed.

 

Long Beach Marine Stadium relies mainly on seawater, and it already has a lot of the infrastructure needed (or at least room to build temporary facilities). It will be much closer in proximity to other venue clusters as well. The main downside to the venue is the shortened distance, along with the tidal fluctuations.

[phelps 7,817]

  On 9/1/2023 at 7:42 PM, Olympian1010 said:

Castaic Lake isn’t really ideal. It’s just a dam, and it got pretty low during the bad drought years. I believe it has recovered much water volume with the unusually wet year we’ve had, but other concerns persist.

 

Lake Perris was the venue originally proposed. It was just far away from other venue clusters, not to mention that lake faces similar pressures when it comes to drought. It would also likely require residential facilities to be constructed.

 

Long Beach Marine Stadium relies mainly on seawater, and it already has a lot of the infrastructure needed (or at least room to build temporary facilities). It will be much closer in proximity to other venue clusters as well. The main downside to the venue is the shortened distance, along with the tidal fluctuations.

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which makes it absolutely not suitable for any rowing Olympic/World Regatta

 

I'm sorry, but you just can't completely change one of the oldest and most traditional sports of the Olympic program because you can't find a proper venue.

 

since we're not talking of a small town/low budget Olympics, if they just don't want to go on with Lakle Perris because of the possible drought issues, they have enough time to study a good plan to remove the current bridge that shortened the original basin in Long Beach and rebuild it half a mile further (or in the same place just after the Games, asking locals to support the Games and be kind for a couple of years of heavy traffic problems)

 

the sport of Rowing deserves a 2000m regatta course, no matters how

Edited September 1, 2023 by phelps

[NearPup 3,232]

It’s also fine if Rowing is out of the way (just like I don’t have any issues with slalom being in Oklahoma). The Olympics is a TV event first and foremost, there is value to having dense venues but a few venues in far flung places is really no big deal.