website statistics
Jump to content
  • Register/Login on Totallympics!

    Sign up to Totallympics to get full access to our website.

     

    Registration is free and allows you to participate in our community. You will then be able to reply to threads and access all pages.

     

    If you encounter any issues in the registration process, please send us a message in the Contact Us page.

     

    We are excited to see you on Totallympics, the home of Olympic Sports!

     

Sprint Canoeing ICF World Championships 2023


Recommended Posts

Let me try to discuss with you guys make it clear how many crews will actually qualify from this WCH. Please, correct me whether I made a mistake. 

 

MEN

K1 1000m - 7 boats

K2 500m - 6 boats

K4 500m - 10 boats

C1 1000m - 5 boats

C2 500m - 8 boats

 

WOMEN

K1 500m - 7 boats

K2 500m - 6 boats

K4 500m - 10 boats

C1 200m - 5 boats

C2 500m - 8 boats

 

And if I may add an additional rule. For example. If a country qualifies K2 crew and nobody on K1 qualifies from any qualification event, the country is allowed to sign up a competitor to K1, but it must be a competitor who is a member of K2 crew. 

 

Am I right about these qualification rules for this WCH and generally for signing up more boats? 

Link to comment
https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/18971-sprint-canoeing-icf-world-championships-2023/page/3/#findComment-573046
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, Jan Linha said:

Let me try to discuss with you guys make it clear how many crews will actually qualify from this WCH. Please, correct me whether I made a mistake. 

 

MEN

K1 1000m - 7 boats

K2 500m - 6 boats

K4 500m - 10 boats

C1 1000m - 5 boats

C2 500m - 8 boats

 

WOMEN

K1 500m - 7 boats

K2 500m - 6 boats

K4 500m - 10 boats

C1 200m - 5 boats

C2 500m - 8 boats

 

And if I may add an additional rule. For example. If a country qualifies K2 crew and nobody on K1 qualifies from any qualification event, the country is allowed to sign up a competitor to K1, but it must be a competitor who is a member of K2 crew. 

 

Am I right about these qualification rules for this WCH and generally for signing up more boats? 

This is correct, except there's also the "doubling-up" stuff with this qualification system.

 

Honestly, it's better to think about this in terms of athlete quotas per discipline than boat quotas, because the number of boats depend on how many athletes qualify from a nation. 

 

Athlete quotas given out at the Worlds:

 

Men's Kayak - 58 quotas

Men's Canoe - 21 quotas

Women's Kayak - 58 quotas

Women's Canoe - 21 quotas

Link to comment
https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/18971-sprint-canoeing-icf-world-championships-2023/page/3/#findComment-573055
Share on other sites

I will try to use this during the qualification at the Worlds to make sense of what's happening.

 

"Q" means gained athlete quota.

 

"D" will mean doubling-up, meaning that there has to be a reallocation because the athlete already qualified in another event.

 

  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
MK1 59 7 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :FRA      
            Q      
MK2 12 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT        
                                       
MK4 40 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT
                                                                               
MC1 22 6 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :FRA        
          Q        
MC2 16 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT    
                                       
WK1 59 7 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :FRA      
            Q      
WK2 12 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT        
                                       
WK4 40 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT
                                                                               
WC1 22 6 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :FRA        
          Q        
WC2 16 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT    
                                       

 

  Total MK MC WK WC
:FRA 4 1 1 1 1

 

Link to comment
https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/18971-sprint-canoeing-icf-world-championships-2023/page/3/#findComment-573066
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Vektor said:

I will try to use this during the qualification at the Worlds to make sense of what's happening.

 

"Q" means gained athlete quota.

 

"D" will mean doubling-up, meaning that there has to be a reallocation because the athlete already qualified in another event.

 

  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
MK1 59 7 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :FRA      
            Q      
MK2 12 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT        
                                       
MK4 40 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT
                                                                               
MC1 22 6 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :FRA        
          Q        
MC2 16 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT    
                                       
WK1 59 7 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :FRA      
            Q      
WK2 12 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT        
                                       
WK4 40 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT
                                                                               
WC1 22 6 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :FRA        
          Q        
WC2 16 :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT :WHT    
                                       

 

  Total MK MC WK WC
:FRA 4 1 1 1 1

 

Do you expect Many doubling up and realocation of quota? 

Link to comment
https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/18971-sprint-canoeing-icf-world-championships-2023/page/3/#findComment-573067
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, prso1000 said:

Do you expect Many doubling up and realocation of quota? 

Not as many as in the past when we had two more events, but we will get a couple per discipline. 

Link to comment
https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/18971-sprint-canoeing-icf-world-championships-2023/page/3/#findComment-573071
Share on other sites

That is gonna be interesting counting. But I like your idea. Let's try to work on this somehow together. Anyways, there was some doubling up, but when I see how did the events change, I would guess there will be way less than before. I mean you may double K4 and K2. But distances have changed, some were excluded. Some of them really look like that many countries have selected way more carefully and still in many occasions they have each athlete competing in one Olympic events. At most 2 but there are not many athletes like this....

Link to comment
https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/18971-sprint-canoeing-icf-world-championships-2023/page/3/#findComment-573072
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, Vektor said:

Oh FUCK, we are in a really hard SF in men's K4. That's what we get for winning our heat...

 

:CZE  :HUN  :GER  :ESP  :FRA  in the same SF, only 3 of these boats will qualify for the final. 

 

Men's K4 SFs

 

SF1 - :SWE  :KOR  :AUS  :SVK  :SRB  :POL  :CAN  :JPN  :KGZ

SF2 - :IND  :POR  :DEN  :LTU  :UKR  :ITA  :NZL  :IRI  :LAT

SF3 - :KAZ  :CHN  :CZE  :HUN  :GER  :ESP  :FRA  :ARG  :USA

 

Good luck to everyone, this will be a bloodbath. 

Very weird draw, to be honest. Even SF 2 has World Rank: 2, 4, 6, 8, when SF1 has 9, 10, 11 and 12 as the best ranked boats. 

Link to comment
https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/18971-sprint-canoeing-icf-world-championships-2023/page/3/#findComment-573285
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, Vektor said:

Women's K4 SFs

 

Finalists - :ESP  :POL  :CHN

SF1 - :ITA  :POR  :CAN  :MEX  :NZL  :AUS  :SRB  :GBR  :UZB

SF2 - :FRA  :NOR  :CZE  :HUN  :DEN  :GER  :UKR  :NED  :SVK

Who are the favorites for the quotas here?

Link to comment
https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/18971-sprint-canoeing-icf-world-championships-2023/page/3/#findComment-573287
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Posts around Totallympics

    • For Modern Pentathlon, it's interesting that Africa only gets one continental championship spot, considering how well Egypt does in the event.  (But then again, it's max 2 athletes per NOC per gender.)  Presuming that an Egyptian wins the African CCh, I suppose their performance in the other major competitions will allow the second competitor to come through.
    • Statement from the president of the russian Luge federation (yesterday): "Our team is in Kazakhstan and is preparing to apply for U.S. visas. We are setting an example for our entire country, especially for the younger generation. They see that a difficult path is not a reason to give up. It teaches perseverance. In this perseverance lies our shared strength, our mission to millions of young people for whom sports are a guiding point and a shining star. I believe in our country, in our strong-spirited guys. I sincerely love and respect our president, Vladimir Putin. He is the best president in the world. May God grant him strength and good health."   Do they deserve neutral status?
    • I did not think it would happen again but... I created similar post for Paris - 2024 https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/27489-ain-athletes-qualification-for-paris-2024-olympic-games-and-reallocation-of-quotas-post1-updated-1507/#comments  I was not sure if that reallocations would really happen but the reality was even more serious than the expectations. According to this research 43% of the neutral statuses issued by the IFs were fake AIN  - https://razom22.com/neutrality-research/  And the figures are based on the IOC decisions - not on the evaluations by Ukrainian NOC or sport ministry. Right now the situation is absolutely unclear. As usually )) Some notes: 1. Russians will not reject quotas for 2026 as they did for 2024 in judo and wrestling. 2. AINERP may be more loyal to russians due to the new member - Watanabe. His federation issued AIN status to Melnikova who took part in the primaries of the russian ruling party, had phots with Z and e .t.c. 3. I do not expect a lot of reallocations becaues of the total small number of the rus/blr athletes in qualification events right now. 4. BUT, even with these small numbers we see that FIS allowed to compete several incompliant persons.        Short notes from the IOC statement before Paris - 2024:   1. IOC`s decisions to reject quotas are final. 2. IOC`s decisions to approve quotas are not final - new facts may lead to the rejection of invitation. 3. IOC`s decisions cannot be appealed - NOCs were not invited to the Games, so it is a good will to invite individual athletes... or not   russians Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision + IF reallocation if happened Figure skating Adeliia PETROSIAN Women's singles Stefania Yakovleva Confirmed by IOC Figure skating Petr GUMENNIK Men's singles Davide Lewton Brain Confirmed by IOC belorussians     Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision + IF reallocation if happened Figure skating Viktoriya SAFONOVA Women's singles Stefania Yakovleva Confirmed by IOC  
    • I would say they will not be eligible. But it realy abotut the wording every federation has in its papers. World Aquatics changes their policies several times (especially after Mazepin "solved the issues" persoanlly - as witnessed one russian Olympic champion)   Inoirtnat notes on FIS decisions:   FIS points are frozen for ruissns and belorussians - so the situation is not so complicated for a lot of them. The list of the AIN`s is not final as the list from ISU was. It means that persons mau be not only removed from the list but added as well. I expect russians to try some freestyle applications before the stage in China, for example. FIS has not problems with the deny of visa or entris by the host countries. So they kept the possibility to close the doors for the russians for all the countries as ICF did. No sanctions for this, no removing events from the Olympic qualification list, no host changes,   * * * * * Here is the the relevant extract from FIS papers for Aerials tram event. What do you think?
    • Not only Korostelev but all 3 russian entries. I will bring the detail 
    • And will bet that the IBU is a lot richer than the FIS because their wealth is based on German TV contracts.  
    • Russians filed an appeal to CAS against IBU. But I do not believe they will get any result in time to grab quotas. I suppose IBU will not agree to have "fast" hearings as FIS did. And i suppose IBU will fight in CAS without intention to lose as FIS did.
    • hmm - aren't Australia and New Zealand the only nations that actually compete in the Oceania Cup?
    • If Australia and New Zealand earn quotas through Pro League, then does that mean 3rd placed team from Oceania Cup takes quota? 
×
×
  • Create New...