website statistics
Jump to content

Sprint Canoeing ICF World Championships 2023

Totallympics

By Totallympics,
in Canoeing - Sprint

 Share

Recommended Posts

Vektor Rising Star

Vektor   3,326

Posted
Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Roamingrover86 said:

Excellent work! Thanks

So, each NOC is eligible for a maximum of 18 athletes, right?

Does that mean :GER can still qualify in WC1 from the European championships?

 

Yes, both :HUN and :GER will go for those two European women's C1 quotas. It's the most stacked field at the European qualifiers in terms of top European canoeing nations because Europe is less dominant in that discipline. 

Edited by Vektor
Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 224
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Vektor
Vektor

I will try to use this during the qualification at the Worlds to make sense of what's happening.   "Q" means gained athlete quota.   "D" will mean doubling-up, meaning that there h

Vektor
Vektor

are the biggest losers in the WK4. They won the bronze at the European Games, and yet they will miss Paris. 

Vektor
Vektor

Olympic quotas   "Q" - athlete quota "HQ" - host quota "D" - doubling-up, reallocation     1 2 3 4

Posted Images

JoshMartini007 Rising Star

JoshMartini007   2,536

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, Roamingrover86 said:

Excellent work! Thanks

So, each NOC is eligible for a maximum of 18 athletes, right?

Does that mean :GER can still qualify in WC1 from the European championships?

 

Yes, but they must use a different athlete to obtain the quota

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rybak Rising Star

rybak   3,217

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, EselTheDonkey said:

In C2? No, I don't think so. But there's still a chance for a quota place at a European qualification event next year.

 

4 hours ago, Josh said:

Probably not, but you do have another chance to qualify at the European Qualifiers in May 2024.

 

Thanks. I'm always negative about our chances when only one quota is available via continental event. But lets wait and see what will happen.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Olympian1010 Experienced

Olympian1010   7,971

Posted
Posted

I actually think this one of the best qualification systems. The ICF has maximized the hell out of their quotas. Yes, it’s a bit convoluted and confusing, but ultimately it provides a fair amount of opportunity with a very limited pool of quotas.

“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mpjmcevoy Collaborator

mpjmcevoy   362

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said:

I actually think this one of the best qualification systems. The ICF has maximized the hell out of their quotas. Yes, it’s a bit convoluted and confusing, but ultimately it provides a fair amount of opportunity with a very limited pool of quotas.

Have long believed that the IOC and IFs should be looking at 'bang for your buck' on quotas. As far as possible have as much qualification razzamataz as possible, and as many events as possible without dropping quotas and changes.

 

The mixed archery pairs and mixed relay triathlon being a pretty good example. No extra quotas, no lost chances, extra event with its own rhythm. And another day of venue tickets if that's a good money raiser.

 

I think the ICF have done a pretty solid job on that front, whatever you think of KayakX, it's another chance on the big water with no quotas really wasted. you could push for a slalom relay (really a slalom aggregate), or try and find the quotas to get one Canoe marathon event in, but IOC should be more generous on events if the IF can think of clever ways to use their quotas

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bearas Collaborator

Bearas   521

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, Werloc said:

Not even our K2 athletes know if they got a quota or not, honestly, a very tragic qualification system :d 

Every media outlet announced that they failed to qualify... It will be laughable it we actually qualified for Paris lol 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mpjmcevoy Collaborator

mpjmcevoy   362

Posted
Posted
5 hours ago, mpjmcevoy said:

Have long believed that the IOC and IFs should be looking at 'bang for your buck' on quotas. As far as possible have as much qualification razzamataz as possible, and as many events as possible without dropping quotas and changes.

 

The mixed archery pairs and mixed relay triathlon being a pretty good example. No extra quotas, no lost chances, extra event with its own rhythm. And another day of venue tickets if that's a good money raiser.

 

I think the ICF have done a pretty solid job on that front, whatever you think of KayakX, it's another chance on the big water with no quotas really wasted. you could push for a slalom relay (really a slalom aggregate), or try and find the quotas to get one Canoe marathon event in, but IOC should be more generous on events if the IF can think of clever ways to use their quotas

For example (yes, it's a pet subject) - it's farcical that the golfers can't get a few more events with exactly zero extra quotas required. A men's and women's four ball, and a mixed foresomes, seeded on the individual stroke play result, with the top eight teams playing a speed-matchplay format (9 holes, 2 points a hole, 10 points the winning line , 9-9 ties broken with one club nearest the pin on 10th).

 

You are talking a max extra 54 holes per player if they play BOTH foursomes and fourballs, three more events, and golf gets to showcase its other major format, matchplay.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Pasolini Contributor

Pasolini   251

Posted
Posted
13 hours ago, Vektor said:

Olympic quotas

 

"Q" - athlete quota

"HQ" - host quota

"D" - doubling-up, reallocation

"M" - maxing out, reallocation

 

  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
MK1 59 8 :POR :HUN :GER :AUS :CZE :BEL :ESP :SWE :ARG :FRA    
Q Q M D Q Q Q Q Q HQ    
MK2 11 :POR :HUN :ESP :AUS :CZE :GER :LTU          
Q Q D Q Q D Q Q Q Q Q Q D Q                    
MK4 40 :GER :HUN :UKR :AUS :DEN :LTU :ESP :SRB :CAN :CHN    
Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q                
MC1 22 6 :CZE :ROU :GER :POL :HUN :BRA :MDA          
D Q Q Q Q Q Q          
MC2 16 :GER :CHN :ESP :FRA :HUN :ROU :ITA :CZE        
Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q                
WK1 59 7 :NZL :DEN :HUN :SRB :AUS :CAN :GER :POR :SWE :CRO :BUL :ESP
D D D D Q Q M Q Q Q Q Q
WK2 12 :DEN :POL :GER :BEL :FRA :SWE            
Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q                        
WK4 40 :NZL :POL :ESP :CHN :AUS :SRB :HUN :GER :NOR :CAN    
Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q                
WC1 22 6 :CUB :ESP :CHN :USA :CHI :CAN :UKR :POL :FRA      
D D Q Q Q Q D Q HQ      
WC2 16 :CHN :ESP :CAN :GER :HUN :CUB :MDA :UKR        
Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q                

 

  Total MK MC WK WC
:GER 17 6 3 6 2
:ESP 15 6 2 5 2
:HUN 15 6 3 4 2
:CHN 13 4 2 4 3
:CAN 12 4   5 3
:AUS 11 6   5  
:POL 8   1 6 1
:SRB 8 4   4  
:DEN 6 4   2  
:FRA 6 1 2 2 1
:UKR 6 4     2
:CZE 5 3 2    
:LTU 5 5      
:NOR 4     4  
:NZL 4     4  
:POR 4 3   1  
:SWE 4 1   3  
:BEL 3 1   2  
:MDA 3   1   2
:ROU 3   3    
:CUB 2       2
:ITA 2   2    
:ARG 1 1      
:BRA 1   1    
:BUL 1     1  
:CHI 1       1
:CRO 1     1  
:USA 1       1

 

Thank you so much for your table!!!

 

I'm checking my own and have a couple of questions.

 

Regarding the K2 boats that have athletes also in K4 I don't think they are elegible, you can't qualify half a boat.

So in the K2 male would qualify: :POR:AUS:CZE:GER:SRB:LAT
and on the K1 male would qualify: :POR:HUN:CZE:BEL:ESP:SWE+:FRA

I don't understand why Argentina has a quota on this table - there are 6 quotas for the K1 plus the French quota, right?

I guess it has to do with the 40 + 11 + 8 but i'm not sure what does that mean.

 

thank you so much :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Pasolini Contributor

Pasolini   251

Posted
Posted
8 hours ago, Werloc said:

Not even our K2 athletes know if they got a quota or not, honestly, a very tragic qualification system :d 

I think it's ok for us, fans, to have a couple of questions.

 

But athletes and federation staff to not read and understand their own documents bazzle me. 

For me it's very clear that Lithuania can not have a quota on K2 because  Mindaugas MALDONIS was on the K4 boat.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Latest Posts around Totallympics

    • rafalgorka
      2026 Winter Olympics - Very Early Predictions

      By rafalgorka · Posted

      DAY 3 events   14. SPEED SKATING - W 1000m 15. SNOWBOARD - W Big Air 16. FREESTYLE SKIING - W Freeski Slopestyle 17. ALPINE SKIING - M Team Combined 18. SKI JUMPING - M Normal Hill Individual
    • rafalgorka
      2026 Winter Olympics - Very Early Predictions

      By rafalgorka · Posted

      DAY 2 events   6. SPEED SKATING - M 5000m   1. Patrick Roest NED 2. Sander Eitrem NOR 3. Davide Ghiotto ITA   7. FIGURE SKATING - Team Event   1. United States 2. Japan 3. Canada   8. SNOWBOARD - M Parallel Giant Slalom   1. Benjamin Karl AUT 2. Andreas Prommegger AUT 3. Daniele Bagozza ITA   (dark horses: Oskar Kwiatkowski POL, Lee Sang-ho KOR)   9. SNOWBOARD - W Parallel Giant Slalom   1. Ester Ledecka CZE 2. Tsubaki Miki JPN 3. Ramona Theresia Hofmeister GER   10. ALPINE SKIING - W Downhill   1. Sofia Goggia ITA 2. Lara Gut-Behrami SUI 3. Cornelia Huetter AUT   (dark horses: Stephanie Venier AUT, Nicol Delago ITA)   11. LUGE - M Singles   1. Max Langenhan GER 2. Kristers Aparjods LAT 3. Nico Gleirscher AUT   12. BIATHLON - Mixed Relay 4x6km   1. Norway 2. France 3. Sweden   13. CROSS-COUNTRY SKIING - M 10km + 10km Skiathlon   1. Johannes Hosflot Klaebo NOR 2. Harald Ostberg Amundsen NOR 3. Friedrich Moch GER   2-2-2---6 2-0-0---2 2-0-0---2 1-1-2---4 1-1-2---4 1-1-0---2 1-0-3---4 1-0-0---1 1-0-0---1 1-0-0---1 0-3-1---4 0-2-1---3 0-2-0---2 0-1-0---1 0-0-2---2
    • konig
      Tennis 2024 Discussion Thread

      By konig · Posted

      Yes, he is ones of the first supporters of Milei, owner of one of the most important stock market of Argentina (Bull market), he was peronist and for "unknown reasons" start to be libertarian.   Even being libertarian in my case, i have to admit that him is one of the dumbest of "Milei supporters" and a clown when  he is in TV, he made me feel  embarrassed in many occasions.   Camila Giorgi being with him is.......inconceivable.
    • NearPup
      [OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

      By NearPup · Posted

      Ya but the replacement is Pat Bondi, a choice that is only better in so far as Pat Bondi isn't credibly accused of having had sex with multiple underaged girls.   Also, you might recognize this name: Pete Hoekstra has been nominated to be the US ambasador to Canada.
    • Monzanator
      Tennis 2024 Discussion Thread

      By Monzanator · Posted

      Camila Giorgi has a new BF Ramiro Marra. Apparently he's some politician/journalist from Argentina. One of Milei's supporters dare I say? @LDOG@konig            
    • Grassmarket
      Skeleton IBSF World Cup 2024 - 2025

      By Grassmarket · Posted

      Skeleton Tour moves on to Yanqing  this weekend.  Asian Cup races tomorrow, then the World Cup on Saturday, and then possibly more Asian Cup next weekend before everyone moves over to Altenberg for the start of the full Skeleton / Bobsleigh tour again. 
    • copravolley
      Men's Tennis ITF Davis Cup 2024

      By copravolley · Posted

      2-1.   But it's good to have a great champion in the squad. I've been waiting for this my whole life. I wish we had such stars in every sport.
    • intoronto
      Curling WCF European Championship 2024

      By intoronto · Posted

      But he beat Mouat, who seems to be almost unbeatable 
    • copravolley
      Men's Tennis ITF Davis Cup 2024

      By copravolley · Posted

      Argentina has a really solid lineup, especially if they have prepared seriously for this event. Of course they don't have a champion like we do, but in this format it is enough to win 1 match to play the decisive doubles.
    • copravolley
      Men's Tennis ITF Davis Cup 2024

      By copravolley · Posted

      Today we must to beat Argentina. It looks like Sinner will have to win all the singles and doubles for us to defend the title. So far, the 2nd and 3rd favorites before the tournament have already been eliminated: Esp and USA.
×
×
  • Create New...