monte88 17 Posted August 4, 2016 #91 Share Posted August 4, 2016 POLAND - 13 medals Archery 0-1 no way Athletics: 3-6 (Małachowski, Włodarczyk, Fajdek and Kszczot, Lićwinko, Urbanek) Badminton 0-1 maybe Kostiuczyk/Mateusiak Boxing: 0-1 no way Canoeing: 2-3 (K4-500m, K1-200m and K2-500 m W) Cycling (BMX, Road, Mountain Bike,Track): 1-2 (Włoszczowska and Majka) Equestrian: 0-1 no way Fencing: 0-1 maybe Women Sabre Team Gymnastics 0-1 now way Handball 0-1 maybe Judo: 0-1 maybe Kłys Modern Pentathlon: 0-1 maybe Nowacka Rowing: 1-2 (Doble Sculls W and Quadruple sculls W) Sailing: 1-2 (RS;X M and W) Shooting: 1-2 (Bogacka and ... Bogacka) Swimming: 1-2 (Kawęcki and Czerniak) Table tennis 0-1 maybe Team M Taekwondo: 0-1 maybe Robak Tennis: 0-1 maybe Radwańska/Kubot Triathlon 0-1 no way Volleyball 1-2 (Team M and Fijałek/Prudel) Weightlifting 1-2 (A. Zieliński and Michalski) Wrestling 1-2 (Gadzhiev and Matkowska) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahjfcshfghb 285 Posted August 4, 2016 #92 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Athletics- 3-5 (men's javelin, Spotakova, Hejnova, possibly Maslak or Drahotova, others possible but unlikely) Badminton- not going to happen Canoe Slalom- 2-3 (Kudejova, Prskavec, probably one other) Canoe Sprint- 2-3 (Fuksa, 4-kayak, possibly 2-canoe) Cycling- not going to happen, road or track Mountain Biking- 1 (Kulhavy, would be nice to see Nash but probably not) Fencing- very unlikely Choupentich can pull it off Gymnastics- not going to happen Judo- 1 (Krpalek, others unlikely) Modern pentathlon- 1-2 (Svoboda, Kuf maybe) Rowing- 1-2 (Synek, Knapkova) Sailing- very unlikely (Fenclova is good but I don't think she will medal) Shooting- 0-2 (Kostelecky/Sykorova/Mazurova could pull it off, but I honestly think even one medal would be an achievement) Swimming- very unlikely, synchronized also Table tennis- not going to happen Tennis- 1-2 (Hlavackova/Hradecka, possibly Kvitova or other doubles pair) Triathlon/Volleyball/Wrestling/Weightlifting- not going to happen. It's a pretty optimistic list, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,562 Posted August 4, 2016 #93 Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) @OlympicsFan @LowerSaxony @T&Fwatch Am I reading this right? Does this say the German federations have 86 medals as their target? Quote 86 Medaillen, darunter 28 aus Gold, hatten die Fachverbände dem Deutschen Olympischen Sportbund als Zielvorgabe avisiert. http://www.zeit.de/news/2016-08/04/olympia-turner-hambuechen-hasst-medaillenzaehlerei-04113005 Surely that must be a mistake in my translation, right? Edit: Ah wait, that was the goal for London 2012, but this time the goal is to equal London 2012? That's a bit more realistic than 86 medals I guess Edited August 4, 2016 by heywoodu If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 783 Posted August 4, 2016 #94 Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) vor einer Stunde schrieb heywoodu: @OlympicsFan @LowerSaxony @T&Fwatch Am I reading this right? Does this say the German federations have 86 medals as their target? http://www.zeit.de/news/2016-08/04/olympia-turner-hambuechen-hasst-medaillenzaehlerei-04113005 Surely that must be a mistake in my translation, right? Edit: Ah wait, that was the goal for London 2012, but this time the goal is to equal London 2012? That's a bit more realistic than 86 medals I guess It wasnt really the goal. At the beginning of each olympic period the federations get their funding according to the number of medals they won at the last olympics and then they make an "agreement" with DOSB about the number of medals they are "supposed" to win at the next olympic games with the money they get. 86 medals wouldve been the "goal" if all federations wouldve won the maximum number of medals, but no one in Germany expected that we could/would win 86 medals. This time our goal is to win at least as many medals as in 2012, so at least 44 medals. https://www.dosb.de/fileadmin/Bilder_allgemein/Veranstaltungen/Olympisch_Spiele_2016/Ziele_Rio_2016_25_04_2016.pdf https://www.dosb.de/fileadmin/Bilder_allgemein/DOSB_Start/olympia/praesentation_sotschi_rio_2.pdf By looking at the second link, you can see that DOSB expected 27-42 medals in Sochi, but no one would say that the goal was to win 42 medals. Thats just the number of medals that we couldve won in a perfect case. For the Rio olympics our "goal" is to win 42-71 medals (link 2, page 7). You could say that 71 is the number of medal contenders, predicted 4 years before the start of the games. Edited August 4, 2016 by OlympicsFan LowerSaxony 1 Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&Fwatch 6 Posted August 4, 2016 #95 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Summarised very well from OlympicsFan, there were huge discussions about non realistic expectations and how ridiculous they were. So now they don't say exactly numbers anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 896 Posted August 4, 2016 #96 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Some of the projections are really over the top (even in their lower end) Judo: 3-4 Cannoeing: 8 (including 2 in slalom) ... And a few are really on the lower side Athletics: 4-6 Maybe, it made sense in 2012, don't know, But in 2016, it doesn't appear to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,562 Posted August 4, 2016 #97 Share Posted August 4, 2016 35 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said: It wasnt really the goal. At the beginning of each olympic period the federations get their funding according to the number of medals they won at the last olympics and then they make an "agreement" with DOSB about the number of medals they are "supposed" to win at the next olympic games with the money they get. 86 medals wouldve been the "goal" if all federations wouldve won the maximum number of medals, but no one in Germany expected that we could/would win 86 medals. This time our goal is to win at least as many medals as in 2012, so at least 44 medals. https://www.dosb.de/fileadmin/Bilder_allgemein/Veranstaltungen/Olympisch_Spiele_2016/Ziele_Rio_2016_25_04_2016.pdf https://www.dosb.de/fileadmin/Bilder_allgemein/DOSB_Start/olympia/praesentation_sotschi_rio_2.pdf By looking at the second link, you can see that DOSB expected 27-42 medals in Sochi, but no one would say that the goal was to win 42 medals. Thats just the number of medals that we couldve won in a perfect case. For the Rio olympics our "goal" is to win 42-71 medals (link 2, page 7). You could say that 71 is the number of medal contenders, predicted 4 years before the start of the games. Thanks for the explanation, that makes sense. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,562 Posted August 4, 2016 #98 Share Posted August 4, 2016 1 minute ago, De_Gambassi said: Some of the projections are really over the top (even in their lower end) Judo: 3-4 Cannoeing: 8 (including 2 in slalom) ... And a few are really on the lower side Athletics: 4-6 Maybe, it made sense in 2012, don't know, But in 2016, it doesn't appear to be the case. You mean for Germany, right? Yeah, 6 athletics medals as the maximum when everything goes perfect is...let's just say, quite a low maximum If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 896 Posted August 4, 2016 #99 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Juste maintenant , heywoodu a déclaré: You mean for Germany, right? Yeah, 6 athletics medals as the maximum when everything goes perfect is...let's just say, quite a low maximum Yes, Germany (from the DOSB file) Right now a 8-10 bracket could be seen as legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&Fwatch 6 Posted August 4, 2016 #100 Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) vor 9 Minuten schrieb heywoodu: You mean for Germany, right? Yeah, 6 athletics medals as the maximum when everything goes perfect is...let's just say, quite a low maximum If everything works perfectly (with all luck on German side) I see these German medalists in athletics: - 4x100w - 4x100m - 100H Roleder - 3000SC Krause - LJw Moguenara - HJw Jungfleisch - PVm Holzdeppe - SPm Storl - SPw Schwanitz - Discus m (2×) Harting - Discus w Fischer - Javelin m Roehler - Javelin w Hussong - Decathlon Abele I think this would be absolutely best case scenario. Edited August 4, 2016 by T&Fwatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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