[OFF TOPIC] Russia-Ukraine War

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3 hours ago, opruh said:

Some indian students are appealing for help since they are not being allowed by the ukrainians to cross the border to Poland, the reason being given is that because india sided with russia despite the fact that india is actually neutral as shown by their abstaining in the un resolution.

I have seen some videos of Indian students alleging discrimination from Ukrainian official but I would personally give them benefit of doubt because of the volatile situation. I think the reality is a combination of many different things, where some official must be angry at India and discriminated against some students, tense students mistaking the delay as discrimination and a variety of other issues. 

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1 hour ago, lapaj said:

 

The indian embassy requested help from Hungary to evacuate 950 students. The first group arrived yesterday:

 

There are an estimated 15-20K Indians stuck in Ukraine. Indian embassies are working really hard to evacuate all of them. And from all accounts, we are receiving exemplary support from all the neighbours, Poland, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. We are thankful to all of you. Till now around 1000 Indians have been rescued. 

[hckošice 14,769]

Ukraine mentioned Bratislava as one of the places they want for the negotiations

[heywoodu 14,911]

The big bad west is provoking Belarus into having no choice but to let Russia place nukes on it's territory.

 

 

[heywoodu 14,911]

6 minutes ago, hckošice said:

Ukraine mentioned Bratislava as one of the places they want for the negotiations

Now that seems like an actually reasonable option. Not at all a country that is 'too western' (like, say, Germany), but also not a party in this conflict (like UKR, RUS, BLR). I hope this will be accepted...soon!

[opruh 129]

Negotiation should be in a neutral place so eu/nato countries, us/canada/israel, russia/belarus and armenia/azerbaijan/central asia should be out of the equation. Maybe some random midle east country would do.

[Vic Liu 1,672]

Ukraine also mentioned Baku, for me it's quite fair and showing good faith. It's definitely acceptable for Russia. But there is a but. It's first publicly mentioned by Ukraine so if Russia accepts it would be seen as cowardice and compromise. If they exchange views under the table the thing will be easier.  Well let's see how it goes. We all want it happen as soon as possible and no more deaths.

[Vektor 3,325]

The negotiation is kinda pointless at this point, Russia wants the current leadership gone or at least to prosecute a couple of Ukrainian leaders for crime against Russians, plus they want to dismantle Ukrainian military and ensure that Ukraine stays out of NATO and the EU. Zelensky will never sign that treaty. The only way there will be peace if the Russians capture Zelensky and put a pro-Russian Ukrainian in charge. 

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15 minutes ago, Vektor said:

The negotiation is kinda pointless at this point, Russia wants the current leadership gone or at least to prosecute a couple of Ukrainian leaders for crime against Russians, plus they want to dismantle Ukrainian military and ensure that Ukraine stays out of NATO and the EU. Zelensky will never sign that treaty. The only way there will be peace if the Russians capture Zelensky and put a pro-Russian Ukrainian in charge. 

Which will just mean another Maidan revolution!

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26 minutes ago, Vektor said:

The negotiation is kinda pointless at this point, Russia wants the current leadership gone or at least to prosecute a couple of Ukrainian leaders for crime against Russians, plus they want to dismantle Ukrainian military and ensure that Ukraine stays out of NATO and the EU. Zelensky will never sign that treaty. The only way there will be peace if the Russians capture Zelensky and put a pro-Russian Ukrainian in charge. 

Yep, but you gotta start somewhere...

 

Obviously the main and really only point should be for Russia to retreat and that's it. Russia doesn't have any right whatsoever to ask for anything here, let alone make any demands.

 

But yeah, that obviously won't happen.