Swimming 2022 Discussion Thread

[phelps 7,664]

11 minutes ago, dullard said:

That 400 free from Galossi is Ian Thorpesque and Lukas Märtens' 3:41.60 in the 400 free was extremely impressive also.

 

It's a shame Winnington choked so terribly in Tokyo because his window of opportunity for a global championship gold medal may now be closed.

that 3.41 by Martens just killed me...

 

but the 400m free are stuck on 3.43/3.44 since too much time, so it's quite logical to see them movin' on and set new standards of global excellence...

 

I think that by Paris 2024 the medals could be close (if not below) the current WR set by Biedermann in 2009 with the rubbish...ops, I meant rubber suits...

[Werloc 3,161]

Rūta Meilutytė started in the Stockholm meet, it's her first international competition and her third official competition after a very long hiatus.

 

Having started with the A team in Stockholm, it's a pretty good indication that she is actually serious about coming back. 

[Makedonas 2,133]

Big Greek NR in the men's 200 IM from Andreas Vazaios in Stockholm. He swam 1:46.94, the previous record was from him with 1:47.48 at the 2017 World Championships in Budapest.

 

Kind of cool to see these Greek swimmers in their mid-late 20s like Vazaios, Gkolomeev, Ntountounaki, Christou continue to improve and have long careers in a sport where it is not uncommon for athletes to retire at young ages 

[phelps 7,664]

1 hour ago, Makedonas said:

Big Greek NR in the men's 200 IM from Andreas Vazaios in Stockholm. He swam 1:46.94, the previous record was from him with 1:47.48 at the 2017 World Championships in Budapest.

 

Kind of cool to see these Greek swimmers in their mid-late 20s like Vazaios, Gkolomeev, Ntountounaki, Christou continue to improve and have long careers in a sport where it is not uncommon for athletes to retire at young ages 

it's the 200m Freestyle...

and frankly, it's just a decent clocking over the distance, nothing special...

and also Christou has done quite well in both the 50m and 200m backstroke so far...

[phelps 7,664]

2022 Italian Spring Nationals

 

best of Day #2

 

women's 50m Backstroke: 1.Silvia Scalia, 27.66 (new NR and World Champs qualifying time)

 

men's 100m Backstroke: 1.Thomas Ceccon, 52.99 (World Champs qualifying time)

 

women's 200m Breaststroke: 1.Francesca Fangio, 2.23.60 (after being on pace for a 2.22 for 180m at least)

 

men's 100m Breastroke: 1.Niccolò Martinenghi, 58.57 (0.01 faster than Peaty at the British champs and World Champs qualifying time)

 

no remarkable times in the remaining races of the day (women's 100m fly, 200m free and men's 50m fly)

[Makedonas 2,133]

14 minutes ago, phelps said:

it's the 200m Freestyle...

and frankly, it's just a decent clocking over the distance, nothing special...

and also Christou has done quite well in both the 50m and 200m backstroke so far...

Sorry I meant to say that, his main event is 200 IM which is why I made that typo 

 

And yes I know it is nothing special for others, but for us it is crazy to see how many NRs have been broken in the past few years from these swimmers. Just in the past year we've had new NRs in 12 events in the 50m pools.

[phelps 7,664]

2022 Italian Spring Nationals

 

best of Day #3

 

men's 800m Freestyle: 1.Gregorio Paltrinieri, 7.46.01 (missed the World Champs qualifying time by 0.01); 2.Gabriele Detti, 7.48.07, (...); 4.Lorenzo Galossi, 7.49.76 (new Junior NR)

 

women's 200m IM: 1.Sara Franceschi, 2.11.94

 

men's 200m IM: 1.Alberto Razzetti, 1.58.70

 

women's 100m Freestyle: 1 ex-aequo.Silvia Di Pietro & Chiara Tarantino, 54.91

 

men's 100m Freestyle: 1.Alessandro Miressi, 47.88 (World Champs qualifying time), 2.Lorenzo Zazzeri, 48.45; 3.Manuel Frigo, 48.50; 4.Leonardo Deplano, 48.68 (all together, World Champs qualifying time for the 4*100m Free Relay)

 

women's 1500m Freestyle: 1.Simona Quadarella, 15.59.32 (World Champs qualifying time): 2.Martina Caramignoli, 16.08.03

[intoronto 5,624]

Team Canada for the 2022 World Championships and 2022 Commonwealth Games  

Pool:

Javier Acevedo*
Sophie Angus*
Jeremy Bagshaw*
Katrina Bellio*
Tessa Cieplucha*
James Dergousoff*
Abby Dunford
Collyn Gagne*
Ruslan Gaziev*
Mary-Sophie Harvey*
Patrick Hussey*
Yuri Kisil*
Finlay Knox*
Joshua Liendo*
Maggie MacNeil*
Kylie Masse*
Summer McIntosh*
Rachel Nicol
Penny Oleksiak*
Sydney Pickrem*
Taylor Ruck
Kayla Sanchez*
Katerine Savard*
Rebecca Smith*
Richie Stokes
Ingrid Wilm
Kelsey Wog

 

Marathon

Alex Axon
Katrina Bellio*
Eric Brown*
Abby Dunford
Hau Li Fan
Emma Finlin
Eric Hedlin

 

*Will also compete at Commonwealth Games (pool events only). Ella Jansen will compete at the Commonwealth Games only. Taylor Ruck, who won 8 medals at the Gold Coast Games, is left of the team for unknown reasons.

[dullard 697]

3 hours ago, phelps said:

2022 Italian Spring Nationals

 

best of Day #3

 

men's 800m Freestyle: 1.Gregorio Paltrinieri, 7.46.01 (missed the World Champs qualifying time by 0.01); 2.Gabriele Detti, 7.48.07, (...); 4.Lorenzo Galossi, 7.49.76 (new Junior NR)

 

women's 200m IM: 1.Sara Franceschi, 2.11.94

 

men's 200m IM: 1.Alberto Razzetti, 1.58.70

 

women's 100m Freestyle: 1 ex-aequo.Silvia Di Pietro & Chiara Tarantino, 54.91

 

men's 100m Freestyle: 1.Alessandro Miressi, 47.88 (World Champs qualifying time), 2.Lorenzo Zazzeri, 48.45; 3.Manuel Frigo, 48.50; 4.Leonardo Deplano, 48.68 (all together, World Champs qualifying time for the 4*100m Free Relay)

 

women's 1500m Freestyle: 1.Simona Quadarella, 15.59.32 (World Champs qualifying time): 2.Martina Caramignoli, 16.08.03

What's up with Italy being unable to develop women's 50/100 freestylers?

[phelps 7,664]

On 4/12/2022 at 12:07 AM, dullard said:

What's up with Italy being unable to develop women's 50/100 freestylers?

unfortunately, it's not only 50/100m, it's the whole freestyle sector that's miles behind the world's excellence (Quadarella is just an exception to this "rule")...

 

for what concerns the sprinters, however, there are a few historical, technical and cultural issues to prevent Italy being a good Nation in those disciplines...

 

I don't know why? but we've always refused the idea of building up poweful swimmers, we normally care a lot about the technical skills and about the amount of kilometers swam by our athletes, but somehow we're always behind the rest of the world when it comes to develop strencht and power...

 

especially among the girls and especially the very young girls, there's always the scare to ask them to put on muscles, we normally refuse to send them in the gym lifting weights until they're at least 16/17 years old, as if it was a risk for their health* (many doctors refuse to give permission to the youngsters to lift the necessary amount of weights...and if you don't build muscles, there's no chance to be competitive in the sprint events -if you notice, Italian swimmers are usually also always poor at the start and in the turns, 2 more aspects of the game where power is really important)...

 

therefore, we have quite a good tradition over the middle and long distances, rather than the shorter ones...and if that's true among the men, imagine how bigger an issue it is among the women...

 

*actually, many gorls refuse also by themselves to push beyond certain limits because they don't want to sacrify their femininity (here in Italy, women with strong muscles = no beautiful females for most people and for the average media...we still live in the myth of the most famous models rather than the TV starlettes, the athletes are rarely seen as role models)...