JoshMartini007 2,370 Posted May 23 #861 Share Posted May 23 Universality quotas account for around 200 and relay-only athletes will also be at around 175. That's already 44% of the total swimming quota, leaving just over half for the "actual" individual competitors. To translate better, each event would have an average of 17 unique swimmers. Of course, in swimming there are athletes which compete in multiple events, but even with that it isn't hard to see why some events struggle to have 16 non-universality entrants. stratocumulus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge 903 Posted May 23 #862 Share Posted May 23 It was the women’s 200m fly in Tokyo where 16 entered the heats, so all 16 qualified for the semi finals They had 17 entered, and one DNS Oh and one of the 16/17 was a universality place for Honduras. 13 had the standard prior to the games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Failure 180 Posted May 23 #863 Share Posted May 23 It's events like that where common sense should come into play. If there's less than 20 swimmers qualified in any situation (ie A cut, B cut or universality) when the final numbers are crunched, just adjust the schedule so the event has only heats and final. The event won't be ruined if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,377 Posted May 24 #864 Share Posted May 24 2 hours ago, Sub13 said: A few things: 1. Chelsea Hodges just surprise retired following chronic injuries and surgeries. I’m devastated. She’ll always be an Olympic champion though. 2. @NearPup I agree they should aim for 20 swimmers in events with semis. Don’t care if there’s less than 20 if there’s no semis anyway. Could force universality swimmers to only enter events that are low on numbers. That could be fun. 3. NearPup again: Your second point kind of defeats the whole purpose of A and B cuts. This would lead to the strong swimming countries, who already have an advantage, sneaking in extra individual swimmers using relay spots. You would end up with swimmers from smaller countries not being invited while slower swimmers from big swim countries racing individually purely because their country has good relays. I don’t think flooding the heats with extra B cut swimmers who have no chance of medalling is necessarily a positive. The athletes are qualified anyway, they are taking up quota spots as is. Might as well get more use out of those athletes, especially when we are in a situation where we're struggling to get enough athletes in some events to justify holding a semi-final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topicmaster1010 3,060 Posted May 24 #865 Share Posted May 24 4 hours ago, OlympicIRL said: If I understand the qualifying process correctly, as things stand it looks like there will be more men qualified than women. It's strange that the IOC doesn't enforce equality in swimming the way they do in the majority of other sports. Yeah, it's not even close. 308 men have achieved an OQT in the qualification period compared to 242 women. Ultimately, there's just much more depth on the men's side compared to the women's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topicmaster1010 3,060 Posted May 24 #866 Share Posted May 24 Safe to say that the men's 50m freestyle will have no shortage of swimmers. NOC ATHLETE 1 QUALIFICATION EVENT RESULT ATHLETE 2 QUALIFICATION EVENT RESULT Aruba 1 SCHREUDERS Mikel Toyota US Open 2023 OCT 21.93 Australia 2 Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 1 TBD OQT X Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 1 TBD OQT X Brazil 1 SANTOS Guilherme Brazilian Swimming Trophy 2024 OQT 21.88 Bulgaria 0 BRATANOV Kaloyan TYR Pro Swim Series San Antonio 2024 OCT 22.04 Canada 1 LIENDO Josh Bell Canadian Olympic & Paralympic Trials 2024 OQT 21.48 Cayman Islands 1 CROOKS Jordan World Aquatics Championships 2023 OQT 21.73 Croatia 1 HRIBAR Jere Canadian Swimming Open 2024 OQT 21.94 Egypt 0 KHALAFALLA Ali 13th African Games 2024 OCT 22.02 France 2 GROUSSET Maxime French Elite Championships 2023 OQT 21.78 MANAUDOU Florent French Elite Championships 2023 OQT 21.56 Germany 1 SELIN Artem German National Championships 2024 OQT 21.90 Great Britain 2 PROUD Ben British National Championships 2024 OQT 21.25 RICHARDS Matt British National Championships 2024 OQT 21.83 Greece 2 BILAS Stergios-Marios European U23 Swimming Championships 2023 OQT 21.83 GKOLOMEEV Kristian World Aquatics Championships 2024 OQT 21.70 Hong Kong, China 1 HO Ian World Aquatics Championships 2024 OQT 21.83 Hungary 2 MILAK Kristof Hungarian National Championships 2024 OQT 21.89 SZABÓ Szebasztián World Aquatics Championships 2023 OQT 21.67 Ireland 1 FANNON Tom Irish Open Championships 2024 OQT 21.94 Israel 2 CHERUTI Meiron World Aquatics Championships 2023 OQT 21.85 KARTAVI Martin Challenge International de Geneve 2024 OQT 21.90 Italy 2 DEPLANO Leonardo World Aquatics Championships 2023 OQT 21.74 ZAZZERI Lorenzo World Aquatics Championships 2024 OQT 21.80 Mexico 1 CASTAÑO Gabriel TYR Pro Swim Series San Antonio 2024 OQT 21.67 Netherlands 2 SIMONS Kenzo World Aquatics Championships 2024 OQT 21.73 TJON A JOE Renzo Eindhoven Qualification Meet 2023 OQT 21.88 New Zealand 1 TOREPE-ORMSBY Taiko New Zealand National Championships 2024 OQT 21.86 Norway 1 LIA Nicholas World Aquatics Championships 2023 OQT 21.94 People's Republic of China 1 PAN Zhanle 19th Asian Games 2023 OQT 21.92 Portugal 2 NASCIMENTO Miguel Portuguese National Championships 2023 OQT 21.91 RIBEIRO Diogo Portuguese National Championships 2023 OQT 21.87 Refugee Olympic Team 1 MASO Alaa Berlin Swim Open 2023 IOC 23.11 Republic of Korea 1 JI Yuchan 19th Asian Games 2023 OQT 21.72 Serbia 1 BARNA Andrej World Aquatics Championships 2024 OQT 21.89 Singapore 1 TAN Jonathan 32nd Southeast Asian Games 2023 OQT 21.91 Sweden 1 SEELIGER Björn World Aquatics Championships 2024 OQT 21.67 Trinidad and Tobago 1 CARTER Dylan ASATT Invitational Swimming Championships 2023 OQT 21.69 Türkiye 0 SAKÇI Emre Greek Open Winter Championships 2023 OCT 22.05 Ukraine 1 BUKHOV Vladyslav World Aquatics Championships 2024 OQT 21.38 United States of America 2 Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 1 TBD OQT X Maximum Quota exceeded, Athlete 2 TBD OQT X Venezuela 1 MESTRE Alberto Dominican Republic International Swim Open 2024 OQT 21.80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,657 Posted May 24 #867 Share Posted May 24 58 minutes ago, Topicmaster1010 said: Safe to say that the men's 50m freestyle will have no shortage of swimmers. Generally, a popular event amongst universality swimmers too. dullard 1 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge 903 Posted May 26 #868 Share Posted May 26 On 5/23/2024 at 8:45 PM, dodge said: Second OQT achieved at the Olympic trials with Tom Fannon going under the time for 50m freestyle. He had already swam the time but not at one of the designated events by Swim Ireland. Team Ireland now up to 5 individuals Daniel Wiffen (400,800,1500 free) Mona McSharry (100m breast) Ellen Walshe (200 IM) Danielle Hill (100 back) Tom Fannon (50 free) Others have the OCT time so we’ll see what happens with them The final day is today and while there hasn’t been any further qualifiers, Danielle Hill has added the 50m free OQT and Ellen Walshe has added the 400 IM OQT Some more OCTs and a bunch of Irish records too maestro and Topicmaster1010 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,777 Posted May 26 #869 Share Posted May 26 OK, that's interesting. Not been picked for the individual event so far maestro and dullard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Failure 180 Posted May 26 #870 Share Posted May 26 6 minutes ago, Dragon said: OK, that's interesting. Not been picked for the individual event so far In fairness, GBR never confirm ahead of time who is swimming what. Just that they are on the team. So, in a very technical sense, not even Adam Peaty has been picked for the individual yet. Angharad was always likely to get that individual swim given that she's the only British female breaststroker there, she had the A cut anyway and she isn't likely to have a heavy schedule. But this performance makes it an almost certainty. Puts her just inside the top 20 ever and if she can repeat it in Paris would make her a threat for a final place. Great swim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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